There Is a Stardust Drought

Barrelrider13: Let me make this straight. I have no stardust. I tend to power up as I collect since the new raid system. I have no problem with it. I have ideal level 30 mons that is all I need for every battle situation. I haven't powered up any legendary yet. I probably won't. Well may be Mewtwo. Currently I am working on my 6 level 30 Tyranitars. I have 3 done, 3 to go, for Mewtwo. I am sure I will get there in time. I do not think I actually need more than 3 level 30 tyranitar's, which I already have. I don't see any reason to complain about stardust. Yes, it is valuable, but that makes it fun. I can collect about 8-10K stardust a day without thinking. I feel it is enough for me at the moment. If you study the critical break points of every moveset, rarely you need anything higher than level 30. That saves a lot of dust. I say you must have a lot of fully powered mons, there lies your problem.

New gym system is the best that is happened to the game. It brought new players, made gym volatile, more diversity. I remember I rarely collected more that 20-30 coins as gym bonus. If I average, my monthly average was probably 10 a day, that is 300 coins a month. Now I almost get 50 every day, say my average is probably 40 a day over a month, that is 1200 coins a month. Who is complaining? So I am doing may be 4 times better than previous gym system. Why would I complain?

I say your problems are as follows:
1. Live in a semi-rural area, not too many players or spawn points, pokestop, gym etc;
2. Not enough planning on how to invest in stardust or how to strategically power up Pokemon;
3. Lack of money to spend in game;
4. Lack of respect to others and life in general

I say that's about sums it, don't you think?

Is there some kind of argument going about stardust?

lol, now idk which thread we're supposed to argue in. I just wanted to spectate.

Key word there is "I". "I" did not lose 5000 dust a day and coins because my town is owned by a team that is not mine. "I" have experienced basically no change in my dust input. We aren't having a stardust drought as a whole. Only some players are, while others are seeing no change, and coins gained from gyms are actually increasing for a lot of players. It's just that some players got used to getting their dust and coins for doing nothing except choosing the right team for their area, and now they want it back. The change actually moved the playing field towards a more level balance.

The gym rework has resulted in the player base losing millions and million of dust (5k/day per gym)

This amount of dust cannot be recouped by berry feeding.

Not everyone was getting 5,000 stardust a day from gyms. And the stardust you harvest from incubators is relatively small unless you wallet warrior for incubators.
There is no stardust drought unless you waste too much stardust. Stop wasting stardust.

Spending more time for raids = less time for grinding.

If you want more dust redirect your expenses:
-Raid Pass
+Incubators
-time raiding
+time catching (grinding dust)

If you want (your pokemon) to be strong you have to work hard. And that's right.

Not the least bit surprising:
The people who are complaining that they aren't getting 5K free dust a day are the exact same people who complained that level 20 players could catch raid bosses and power them up! If dust were free, then EVERYONE would have a level 39.5 Articuno!

Last year when the game was released, dust was identified as the limiting factor for players as they advanced. The "bonus" dust given out from gyms wasn't available then. Just because they added it doesn't mean that it was the right thing to do. But now people feel they are entitled to it.
Have you ever considered that there has to be at least ONE THING that is not free, that must be earned? If it is dust, and you have to grind to get it, that is fine!
Isn't one of the main purposes of the game to 'catch them all"? and how many are you catching when all you do is stand at, or drive, from gym to gym doing nothing but raids? Doesn't that defeat the purpose of the game?

I had about 1.6 million stardust when the gym rework happened, while now I'm hovering around 1.5 million. So yeah, I'm pretty much breaking even now instead of accumulating, due to powering up more pokemon than I used to, but I'm still collecting dust at pretty much the same rate as ever.

Actually, if anything, it might even be easier to get dust now. Gyms were never an efficient source of dust, and I only bothered with them for the coins. I used to have to spend hours every day fighting at gyms just to try to hold maybe 4 or 5 of them long enough to collect before I'd get kicked back out of all of them within minutes, but now I can just jump into one or two gyms and call that good, then spend the rest of that time catching pokemon instead. Two hours fighting at gyms for 2000-3000 dust, or two hours catching pokemon for 100 dust each, no question which provides more stardust total.

I know people who hit 10 million dust without ever doing gyms in the old system.

fight! fight! fight! fight!

Not everyone was holding 10 gyms.

Well. The new gym nerfed the top players including me but everyone gets a shot at the gym now so it is cool. The new gym is even better nerfing all the spoofers. Stop complaining like a kid. Just have to catch more and walk more.

I am contemplating wasting stardust on my 100%Pidgey - LOL

I don't like missing the extra 500 dust per gym I'm on, (honestly, I don't know why we can't get 50 per coin we get under the new system, it would essentially be the same). But I also never use my Regular Razz or Nanab berries, so I always have plenty to feed the Ttars, Dragonites, and Blisseys I leave on gyms, plus there's the chance for candy. Not gonna claim those even out, but it's not exactly terrible.