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Spreading Ursaring Awareness

So I just saw a question about Ursaring so I wanted to post this to convince everyone about how they need multiple Ursarings on your attacking squad. Number one he is the best blissey counter in the game as far as fighting type attackers because of course being a fighting attacker with out being a fighting type he is not weak to 3/5 of blisseys moves. Number two if you do not dodge quick moves he is the best snorlax attacker as far as fighting type attackers are concerned because he not only resists lick he is not weak to ZH unlike machamp. Number two with C/CC he destroys Tyranitar granted not aswell as machamp but alot of people dont have a double fighting machamp. So I hope I have thouroly hope I convinced you of why you need several ursaring on your squad.

Asked by Mike13447 years 11 months ago
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I agree with this post, but for speed Machamp still wins. Ursaring comes out ahead for survival though. He is a good balance of survival and speed.

Note "best Blissey counter" is incorrect, Machamp is better for raw speed but for multiple Blissey I think Ursaring does better.

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Yep that is why I love him so much I have both a C/CC machamp and Ursaring and most of the time vs blissey I choose Ursaring but for snorlax a T-rex I will most of the time choose the Champ.

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For one I said as far as fighting attackers because pokemon like Flareon Tyranitar Dragonite will beat blissey much quicker and yes I was mainly saying that due to being able to take down two if you use him right.

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So what's the difference between using a Dragonite or an Ursaring to take down a Blissey? Is there any significance in having fighting moves when STAB and SE are both 1.25x more damage?

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An offensive Dragonite does it faster and and with considerably more health. Not everyone has one though.

And no there's no difference. There probably should be though.

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I meant what was the point of OP ignoring the other Pokemon that are better just because they don't have fighting moves.

No one needs an Ursaring because there are better options. They're still great but not like you should go out of the way to look for Teddiursas if you could be looking for Dratinis instead for example.

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That's fair. Some may have no Dragons, Eggs or Tyranitars with good movesets. To those folks (few though they may be) I agree with the OP. You are right though if you do have those or the option to power them up for this purpose they will be better.

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For attacking blissey there are bunchs of better options, but for prestiging blissey, Ursaring is one of the best option with its CP level.Its bulky enough to take down a blissey with 600cp higher.

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Fighting attacker lacking stab though. Though I see where you're coming from-you'd rather do less damage and eat less damage rather than doing more and taking more damage.

For a player who doesn't dodge I suspect the bear and machamp will perform similarly, Machamp gaining stab and getting hit harder versus the bear not getting hit hard but not hitting as hard.

However for a dodger I suspect machamp will be far superior, given that dodging neglects the super effectiveness and reduces Zen Headbutt damage so much.

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The main reason why I posted this is yes I am a minimal dodging type of player but because of that I have actually lost vs blissey with my machamp and whenever I fight with my Ursa I get thru with about 15-40% hp left.

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Yeah but that much dodging isn't really practical with the stupid dodge glitches for me at least

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Nah. STAB and SE has the same multiplier. IVs would affect its final damage now. Nevertheless... I'd choose Vaporeon anytime over Ursaring when dealing with Tyranitar. Regarding Blissey... I'm not so sure. STAB or SE, my Dragonite (well not maxed out has a hard time dealing with 2900 CP Blisseys). No doubt that Dragonite is stronger so he can't, Ursaring can't.

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Er. I know that. I'm simply stating it has the same damage multiplier. Would still choose Machamp over Ursaring anytime despite using one amplifies most of Blissey's attacks.

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He is just okay. Certainly use him if you dont have better options, but he doesnt have the survivability that other pokemon do. If you only need him to defeat 1 pokemon he is a fine option, but I would never put him on my team of 6.

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One of the reasons I like him so much is because in my area there are normally 2-4 blisseys on the bottom so have a pokemon that can take out about 1.6 to 2 blisseys is great.

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by JHVS 7 years 11 months ago

I agree with the OP in that I like my Ursaring and it performs well against Blissey. If you do not have a roster full of B/SE Tyranitar, high end Dragons, or C/SoB Eggs. I don't have a Machamp but those are the only mons I have that seem to clearly put perform him in time and/or remaining health.

For Tyranitar I always use a high end Vape. For those that don't have one Ursaring will do fine but he isn't faster nor does he leave with near as much health.

He does fine against Snorlax too and what I said above for Blissey is the same for Snorlax on a smaller scale.

Few offensive mons that aren't high end and hard to get can be as useful as that Ursaring in the current meta.

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Oh I'd also add that I would have to check but I would imagine that HB may be as or even more effective than CC.

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I can definitely attest that his HB is massive. Too bad it's NVE against Rhydon and T-tar, though.

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That's would be nice if they weren't. Still, with the NVE it's still 150 when you negate the stab right? If CC is 100 the effective to 125 HB still outperforms it per 100 energy right? For Rhydon? For Tyranitar and his double weakness it would be 156 which is negligible.Or do I have those numbers wrong?

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Counter with hyper beam is better than close combat in almost all match ups because ursaring doesn't get STAB on fighting moves. There's a video on YouTube by funkysho showing this.

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If you want to weaken a Blissey fast, I think a high level Alakazam will work very well too due to only taking 1 damage from a dodged zen headbutt...

Machamp is just much faster than Ursaring and if leveled to very high levels, will have an easier time due to having more HPs...

Overall, I like Eggs the most due to decent damage and resist psychic moves...

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by FLEEVY 7 years 11 months ago

A poor man's Machamp.

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by FLEEVY 7 years 11 months ago

A poor man's Machamp.

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Imo only use and power up ursaring if u do not have a gd enough machamp.

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by aSp 7 years 11 months ago

"best blissey counter in the game"

What?
I am gald you have found something you enjoy using, but those claims.....ummmm

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Best Blissey attacker? No
Best Blissey prestiger? Maybe
He is fairly CP efficient and can get it done on time.
There are better options for ZH Snorlax on both fronts. I prefer using a Psychic like Slobro or Starmie, myself.

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One of best blissey prestigers. I have C/DP machamp, the CP is too high to prestige most blissey(I believe people will always max it out for this moveset, its 1/6 lucky draw and in some case 0/13?), while my C/HB and C/CC Ursarings are pefect for this job.

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