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Soloing Machamp

OK, so.... I tried soloing Machamp and it only had 5 mins left. AKA one chance. I used 3 Alakazams 2 Dnites and 1 Espeon. I will say this 2 Alakazams i thought to myself "wow, i think i got this. i'm making good time." Sure was, then looked at my health and that Machamp was killing me. Had Bullet Punch/Dynamic Punch. Here is the CP and Movesets of the Pokemon i used, in order.
Alakazam- 2486CP- C/P
Alakazam- 2216CP- PC/P
Espeon- 2446CP- C/Pb
Dnite- 3150CP- DB/DC
Alakazam- 1743CP- C/FS
Dnite- 2106CP- SW/H
Out of all obviously the higher CP Dnite lasted longer and because of that was able to do more damage. BUT out of this group, Which should i power up to help take down the Machamp solo? Also, switch Alakazam to FS? or keep psychic because of the chance of FB? I will admit looking at the team, i wasted a pass.... But it was the first Machamp i have encountered:(

Asked by snorlaxn758 years ago

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DT Hurricane dragonites does better on machamps if you have.
If you want FS try tm on Confusion ones.

Your best bet to defeat Machamp would be the Dragonites, Alakazam actually is only useful versus Machamp in a group. In solo it doesn't have the survival you need.

If you have double psychic eggy he will outperform Alakazam/Espeon in solo/duo

have a DT/HB 2500CP Dnite but read Hurricane was better. I was not thinking straight just had to make sure i got in there.

Solar Beam does more damage than psychic even to a machamp.

I agree and disagree with this. In terms of multiple Alakazams I agree. However I run one first and that means I get to gauge his charge while doing great DPS before he unleashes. With FS I am relatively safe for dodging the charge move too unlike my DT Dragons. I often get off at least two FSs. I would not run one after the top spot though for the reason that you stated.

Psycho Cut, if I'm correct, still outclasses Confusion (albeit slightly), in terms of DPS, energy per second and the ability to dodge, which is big for a glass cannon. Would say do that one.

Do NOT use a TM on a Psychic Alakazam. The difference is only going from 100 damage to 120 damage, and you have a 50% change of getting Focus Blast instead, which would be terrible on offense.

That's what i figured. i have a FB alakazam so that maybe i can throw someone off in a gym or something lol. But good point, wouldn't waste a TM on him.

Alakazam- 2486CP- C/P
Alakazam- 2216CP- PC/P

P underwhelming

Espeon- 2446CP- C/Pb

Pb even more underwhelming on attack.

Dnite- 3150CP- DB/DC

A good dodger, but dodging is not asked for when soloing T3. -> non ideal moveset either, because w/o dodging, it deals 10% less damage than dt/o

Alakazam- 1743CP- C/FS

Good one. But way too small.

Dnite- 2106CP- SW/H

SW underwhelming. Dragonite too small.

Your Team needs enforcement indeed. Do you have Exeggutors?

Yeah, i lack Stardust ALOT. I tend to have evolved pokemon with good IVs best movesets just low levels. I have a double Psychic Eggy but i was reading Solar Beam isn't as bad either because of its strong attack.

I'd say Alakazam and espeon with Futuresight are both useable for all matches where high DPS is required..

I don't know but if the missing dodge warning is a bug and meant to be implemented those glass cannons would profit by that.

So I guess powering up an Futuresight Alakazam is never a mistake.

I'm wrestling with some of the same issues. Some thoughts:

I would never risk wasting a charge TM on a mon where I wasn't guaranteed a better move. That is not the case with the Alakazams you listed.
If you have a high level Eevee, it might be useful to buddy up with it and make it into another Espeon after 10km walking. That is something I'm heavily contemplating.
If you have a double psychic Exeggutor get it up to speed. I have one at L20 but I am admittedly not happy about spending the stardust. I probably will though - being able to beat Machamp solo is too important.
That Dnite at 2106cp is probably too weak for the job currently. You would need to power it up, I think.
Forget the wasted pass, it is less than a dollar! :-)
Team up with one other person to take down some level 3 Alakazams with Confusion/Futuresight and get him up to level 30 (again stardust costly).

I am lacking stardust also, i envy everyone with those 500k plus pictures lol. but think i wont waste a TM at all on any of these attackers. I have contemplated the Eevee also, but i got a Tyranitar going for the moment. Will probably wait for my next candy from him and switch. I think just a quick attack Eggy is good cause Solar Beam is just that strong, or still go double Psychic? Yeah that Dnite might have to go lol. And you gotta keep doing the raids to help solo higher raids. lol.

Yeah, Eggy with ES/SoB or C/SoB should probably still be pretty good if they are high level. Worth a shot!

I just soloed my second one in 12 hours. The meat of my crew is lv 37.5 Zam with PC/FS, and 2 Dnites with DT/H. I finished both times with double digit seconds left. The catch on yours is that it is much harder to pattern the special dodges when he has DP however I did beat one of those too but it was closer. The real key is to get off that last charge move and not die with half a bar unused. If you can do that you are golden.

Every raid i have done, usually half my mon die with full charge moves. That is a really awful feeling. I got the DPS just need an Eggy in place of that Third Alakazam and maybe another Eggy in place of that 2nd Dnite both with a Psychic move/ SoB i would've gotten it. I need More stardust....lol.

Yes your crew could definitely be better suited to this fight (no offense). I know exactly what you are saying in regards to the chagre. For this fight I feel like all that I'm really trying to do is get off one extra charge. As long as you can do that with a good crew you will cruise. Die with a half or better bar once or twice? You're done.

I'm not liking my current potential Machamp team:

Probably solid candidates:
L30 DT/Hu Dragonite
L30,5 C/PB Espeon
L30 ES/SoB Exeggutor

Weaker candidates in their current form:
L30 H/SB Gengar
L29 PC/SB Alakazam
L28 ES/SoB Exeggutor

Possible upgrades:
L20 ES/P Exeggutor (91%)
L20 C/FS Alakazam (76%)
Buddying up a L30 Eevee and making it into an Espeon

My plan is to scout out a Machamp. Try out my current team. When that fails power up the ES/P Exeggutor. If that fails, power up the C/FS Alakazam. If that also fails, buddy the Eevee and wait a few days. Ouch! I'm not liking the stardust expenditure here!

I don't want to say you cannot do it with that but if he has DP you have a lot of slooooow quick moves that may cost you. The main reason I like PC on Alakazam is I feel like I can spam pretty well when he is almost dead, dodge a necesary charge or even the odd quick move to drop that final FS ibefore I lay him to rest.

Of course when the DT/Hs come in I just have to try and predict about when a charge might be used and be a bit more careful. I do not always pull it off perfectly with those two but when those three are down the C/SoB has little work left and I cruise.

I'm not saying you can't do it with that team I'm just not sure that I could.

Do be a good gengar?
Even without SE moves he can do a lot of damage and survive some time with its immunity.

I haven't completely run the math but I feel after trying some stuff that too much resistance isn't all that great for these raids unless the mon is exploiting a double weakness. As long as the mon is taking some damage and my mon isn't super fragile I can get off more charge moves by taking a bit more damage. Of course this only works if you are dodging charge moves.

I mean what gets more folks? Running out of time or mons? My guess is the most often reply among trainers with a good set of attackers will be time.

True, but the same argument can go against Dnite, unless it has hurricane. The base attack of gengar is the same as the dragon, so with the immunity he can deliver a lot of damage and last a long time.

No doubt Gengar is a likely exception here. I was speaking more in general. At the start I was using mons that resisted better or lasted longer and losing to 3* mons with only two or three dead. I would love some detail on working out the right balance but I haven't gotten there yet. And besides that I would not recommend a non Hurricane Dragon for this fight if you're attempting to solo. So if a Gengar is all you have then by all means give him a run. If you have a better option though I would not consider him a strong sub for those.

Everyone says Eggy, but why not Slowpoke/Slowbro with double psychic? They have about the same defense and same stamina. But the attack is cleary edged by eggy. but has anyone tried Slowpoke/Bro?

180 sec goes by quickly. Maybe if there are 3 slow (family) attacking.
I could barely solo a machamp.

My problem is I have no high level Dragonites with Hurricane at all! I will test out this lineup:

Alakazam 2354CP PC/FS
Espeon 2929CP C/Psybeam
Exeggutor 2812CP C/SB
Exeggutor 2407CP ZH/SB
Exeggutor 2436CP C/P
Dragonite 3145CP DT/O

Will I make it?

If SB is solar beam, YES. Lvl 39, 80+ iv on the big Egg? And that Espeon...

Yep, that's a 100% Egg, level 37.5. And a 98% Espeon, level 38.5.

Anybody with experience have any thoughts on if I would likely be able to solo a Machamp with this set of mons?

Dragonite 2979CP - SW\Hu
Dragonite 2975CP - SW\Hu
Espeon 2563CP - Co\Psyb
Espeon 2560CP - ZH\Psyb
Alakazam 2460CP - Con\Psyc
Alakazam 2450CP - PC\Psyc
Egg 2472CP - Con\Psyc
Egg 2443CP - Con\SolBeam

What do you think? Start with the Dragons, then Alakazams\Espeons, then finish with Eggs?

Thanks