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Should mythical be allowed in gyms?

At least, I would like it

Asked by trekjebakfiets7 years ago
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Yes and so should Legendaries. The motivation system assures that they will all be equally useless after a few hours

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The motivation system ENSURES the very experience of the game makes all efforts useless, so this is a totally unacceptable factor to determine why Mythical or Legendary or Scary Pokemon should be at gyms.

They shouldn't be there because they shouldn't. They are LEGENDARY. Are you forgetting the word? It is a Pokemon one should never see in multiple lifetimes. Something many don't even believe exists. There in fact should be a cap for ownership of any Pokemon outside the regulars: 5 max inventory , 3 max especially for attacking.

And for the stupid, no, VERY stupid people below saying "it would be a valid way to keep the game fresh". No. that very notion is the epitome of fleeting. Its just some indulgent measure that kills the longevity and process owed to the Pokemon universe: work extremely hard for the greatest achievements. AKA "the harder the battle, the sweeter the victory". The very idea that people enter battles with a TEAM of Legendaries should force you to question such shamelessness. And it's not even an idea, its a worldwide reality.

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Are you yelling at us or Niantic? No one here made the decision to hand out Legendaries like candy with no restriction on battle use on top of a weird, broken gym system. That's all Niantic. Calling people stupid here won't fix that and it negates some of the good points you made

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"They shouldn't be there because they shouldn't. They are LEGENDARY. Are you forgetting the word? It is a Pokemon one should never see in multiple lifetimes. Something many don't even believe exists."

Nope, you're mixing up legends with mythics. The general way that things go in the Pokemon universe is that legends are known to exist, and in many cases people even know where to find them (the Tapus in gen 7, for example). They tend to fall into one of two categories: powerful Pokemon (The legendary birds, the aforementioned Tapus) that are generally on a par with more powerful Pokemon (mainly the pseudo-legends; Dragonite, Tyranitar, Salamence, etc), and the "big" legendaries like Mewtwo, Ho-oh, etc. The greater legends tend to be absurdly powerful and the focus of their games.

Mythics, on the other hand, seem to be Pokemon rumored to exist in-universe, but they're so rare that they haven't been studied in-depth, and as such are poorly understood.

In general, mythics are weaker than than the greater legends, normally falling to the power of lesser legends or pseudo-legends. There ARE exceptions to this, such as Arceus, or Marshadow, the later of whom is mainly considered hugely powerful due too its many MANY advantages.

Note that this is all from a main-series perspective.

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Would be pretty cute to have a Mew in a gym. Its stats are not too high. Celebi and Jirachi also don't have much in terms of attack or defense or anything. They're probably on the same level as Rhydon as a defender.

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To anwser my own question, probably not. Legendary and Mythical pokemon are in the same line of code in the game master file. Sad...

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I don't see why not, none of them are particularly good as defenders. I think they should allow one legendary and one mythical per gym and per player, possibly only on gold gyms. Lugia would become a staple but I don't see anything wrong with having an amazing defender that's not weak to fighting.

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The choice that Niantic made to have legendaries not in gyms is in my opinion not necessary with the current gymsystem. This system is already very boring and legendary defenders would stirr the defenderlist up a bit and make things more challenging.

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Indeed. I would love to take on maxed Lugias and Kyogres in gyms, the game could very much use some additional challenge.

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Would love? Isn't that why you do Level 5 raids to begin with? lets not forget it is the danger zone of having legendaries at gyms being fed hundreds of berries per day. Why? Because everyone wants to be OP and hardly anyone wants to work for it.

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They could have had something like the elite 4 fight, except you have elite 6 and then 7th is the champion, who can use a legendary if they want. The 7th will probably be the one who took the gym first and is saved for last unlike the other 6. You'd have to kick out the other 6 to get to fight the 7th.

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They could add one special gym slot for 1 Mythical or Legendary. This slot does not lose motivation with time, but you only need to defeat it once to kick it out.

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in other words, make new players quit. I think this is about the opposite of what Niantic would want.

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Sure mate, sure. Imagine all the rage quit world wide because they only have 200 CP pidgey, not being able to defeat a weak mythical Pokemon.

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you think a level 15 player could beat a maxed out mythical that never decays?

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Absolutely. Level 15s can leech a team of weather boosted tyranitars. In fact a level 5 player could take down a non decaying Mew.

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I don`t understand why do you think a lvl 15 player should be able to "encounter no dificulties", why even need to go beyond lvl 15 if at that lvl you expect to take out everything in a gym. This is silly

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I'm just saying there is a difference between a small difficulty and being road blocked out of the only gym within 2 miles of your house. I just think Niantic will not go there. Blissey towers turned off so many people that the game almost died.

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Maybe then automatically drop the legendary out of the slot after 2 hours?

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Speaking about legendaries; from the 5 remaining ones in this generation, 4 of them are defensive-oriented (Latias and the Regi-trio). Since they’re not quite useful the way the game is now, I doubt people will be really motivated to keep raiding after catching the first one (something similar happened with Suicune in the latter days, at least here). So, less motivation to raid = less premium passes being sold.
Would be a different story if legendaries were allowed as gym defenders.

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I'd be very happy for those to be released, so that I can finally focus on Tier 3 solos or Tier 4 duos. Raikou, Ho-Oh, Groudon, Kyogre, Rayqaza and now Lugia are too valuable source of candy, power and raid rewards to spend passes and raid anything else, and my raid group is consistent enough to get 2-3 of them every day of the week. Yes, I would actually like a calmer legendary pace for a while, but something tells me there will again be Latios and the birds re-released to keep us hardcore raiding Tier 5.

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If Niantic kept the old gym system with key elements from our current gym system implemented into it, I would be fine with legendary Pokémon defending gyms. Some of these elements could include, but are not limited to:

-One of each Pokémon per gym
-One legendary Pokémon per gym (only possible to place a legendary in a gym if you have a Gold gym badge for that gym)
-Order of Pokémon based on who places their Pokémon first, second, etc., and not CP based.
-The structure of the old gym system should be brought back, rather than what we have now with all the Pokémon clamped up together, it's just not visually appealing
-CP decay removed, and prestiging brought back, so you can always battle Pokémon at their fullest potential
-Berries (limit of 10 berries per Pokémon like it is now) can be used on gym defenders for stardust (20 stardust per berry). You may even potentially get a candy from the Pokémon you feed berries to, so berry feeding will no longer be an issue since CP decay is removed, and is only associated with collecting stardust and candy

This isn't perfect (since spoofing exists), but this kind of gym system sounds a hell of a lot better than the one we have now. With the current gym system, I'm just not okay with legendaries defending gyms. Gyms will just be filled with legendaries only, which will stale their presence. Plus, no one wants to battle a 1000 CP Groudon or 500 CP Mewtwo, that's just too lame and easy. Until Niantic cooks up a better gym system than the one we have now, legendaries should remain exclusive from gym defending.

EDIT: Mythicals included

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Yes please atleast 1 slot, would like legendaries aswell

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Legendaries no, I dont need a Lugia powered up just below the CP dropoff point that'll be annoying as hell. Oh look I got it down annddd they berried it time to bang my head against the wall again.

Mythical Legendaries I dont see the problem with though.

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