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Should Machamp or Poliwrath be on the Defensive Tier List?

Poliwrath w/ RS/DP or IP should hit pretty hard. Machamp w/ C/DP should be a pretty decent along w/ Poliwrath w/ B/DP or Submission. I would think both are at least better than Donphan? Or they shouldn't be any easier to take down at least than Gyarados w/ bite, Rhydon, Tyranitar, or Cloyster w/ IS.
I'm also shocked w/ how low Exeggutor placed w/ Confusion. I fear facing a Confusion Exeggutor way more than Snorlax w/ any moveset outside of ZH/BS, Gyarados, Tyranitar, and many others placed above it.

Side note: The game would be more fun if they allocated a specific Pokémon type to each gym. Such as a all water type, fighting, fire, normal, fairy, and etc. That way all Pokémon are fairly represented lol.

Asked by s0measnguy8 years 8 months ago
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The reason exeggutor placed where it did is its CP. I have a level 37.5 one with confusion, and it's still a challenge to place it in a gym and not have it be near the bottom. I do try to get it in gyms where I can, since I know it's a great defender otherwise.

I definitely wouldn't be able to place a poliwrath in a gym.

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Slowbro, Slowking, and Steelix are on the same tier as Exeggutor! Lapras as a similar CP to Exeggutor and I argue I fear facing Confusiom more than IS. I agree w/ Poliwrath it's CP is super low like Steelix, but w/ RS &DP I argue it's more formidable than Steelix when both are placed at the bottom lol.

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I agree about Eggy with Confusion, but in general the list is practical given the metagame right now and the value of CP in defensive preference. The list is pretty much what experienced players are going to intuitively use but we already knew that. if they were going to do so much research I would love to see a second list with the premium on the actual effectiveness of the Mons in defense not just the obvious preference of CP to be upline of Blissey and Snorlax. Anyone can tell that. Tell me how something like a Ursaring or Scizor or compare, something much harder for me to easily see on my own.

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