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Is shaving gyms against the TOS if someone else does it for you?

Edit: I mean when someone actually does it to make a slot for you.

Asked by DragoniteSlayer6 years 6 months ago

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Not strictly. It could be interpreted under the blanket prohibition on all forms of cheating and Ingress has a very strict policy about cross-faction co-operation. But since there's no way to prove it happened without the players involved explicitly admitting to it, you should be safe.

I'd go a step farther and say it wouldn't even be covered under the blanket prohibition on all forms of cheating. There is nothing anywhere in PMG against cross-team cooperation. And you could argue the entire point of raids is to foster cross-team cooperation.

So absent any explicit mention of it in Trainers Guide, I'd say its perfectly 100% legal based on only available evidence to make a decision.

Despite this strict policy about cross faction cooperation in Ingress, there are events where the two factions make control zones in artistic patterns. Clearly cross faction collaboration, but doesn't seem to be a problem. So that rule is enforced occasionally, at best.

Yeah, CF field art and First Saturdays seem to be exempt from the rule so it's not a 100% ban on any kind of collaboration. I think it's mostly just win-trading that's so strictly prohibited because honestly it makes leveling way too easy if exploited.

I'm not taking the rules of Niantic serious anyway. Obvious spoofers have never been banned.

There have been several automated banwaves targeted at spoofers. They even gave the most famous POGO player in the world a 30-day suspension for breaking the rules. Niantic isn't utterly indifferent to cheating, even if most of the time it seems they either don't care or don't have the resources to act on anything.

Only a 30 day ban for selling accounts when that's strictly against the rules? I lol'd. Plenty of other cases of players who show cheating behaviour on YouTube and nothing happened.

I'm negative in this one indeed, but that's because my place had periods of extreme spoofing behavior I had to play against

It was a warning that came with an explicit promise of a permaban if he continues. Niantic has very rarely done straight permabans out of the blue, even the spoofer banwaves started with warnings.

I completely agree that it's ridiculous how they've previously failed to ban people who advertise their cheating by streaming or uploading it to youtube. Can't get more concrete evidence than that.

Eh DragoniteSlayer, you never see what happen when MRT station gym got one or two defender kena kick out?

Maybe considered as unethical, but not as cheating.

Teams is a rather stupid concept in Pokemon Go, the way it was implemented. Almost all of my friends were choosing team totally random, only exceptions were some of those where several members of a family played.

Helping with shaving, or taking down a whole gym, might be the only way you are able to do gym fighting together with your friends from other teams.

Have some friends who have got gold-gyms very quick by taking turns fighting each other for hours in a row.