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Scizor vs Deoxys in EX Raid

Any particular reason that Scizor is not recommended in Deoxys Counter page while it is for Mewtwo? Does GP just miss it?

Asked by ghao896 years 8 months ago
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He is low on the DPS charts. But keep in mind, Doexys is an extremely easy raid boss. 3 trainers with good counters should not have an issue taking him down. 4 should be very easy. With the invite system, I don’t see how anyone would have a problem with him.

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Deoxys' bulk is so nonexistent, close DPS against mewtwo now has significantly larger gaps, and as DPS is king in the game, the options that were a head by a bit agaisnt mewtwo now out pace it a lot more.

Plus because Deoxys' bad moves make it so a lot of other coutners that were strong but went down a bit too fast against mewtwo, namely gengar, can really rip into Deoxys a heck of a lot beter

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I did 4 vs a partly cloudy Hyper Beam Deoxys. Finished right at 150 sec. Two were red and two blue. The stronger team probably had enough to duo, but Gengars died in less than 2.5 seconds it seemed. Probably wasn't THAT bad, but if you duo, try to stagger when the players faint so the boss doesn't get the HP boost by not being engaged.

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Scizor is not really a good counter. But I would agree that the recommended counter list: https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/raid-boss-counter/deoxys-normal-forme-raid-counter-guide has a lot of gaps:

Tanks are wrong:
Kyogre is classified as a tank counter. despite scizor survives longer in 7/8 cases and having a higher DPS in all cases.

Overvalued dragons:
Scizor has in 6/8 movesets better DPS and survival than dragonite and rayquaza. Dragonite has lower DPS in all cases.

Glass counters: Scizor is more tanky compared to all glass cannons:
sharpedo has lower DPS than Scizor in 6/8 move set ups.
Absol has better DPS than Scizor in 6/8 cases.
Banette has better DPS than Scizor in 4/8 cases.

Imo the list should be:

glass cannons:
Gengar

Supreme:
Mewtwo
Tyranitar

Good counters:
Houndoom
Scizor

Fill any remaning slots with:
absol, banette, sharpedo, pinsir, weather boosted + high attack stat.

avoid dragons altogether.

EDIT: its middle of the night and i'm working to 8:30. ran the numbers quickly. might be wrong.

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Two level 32 tag alongs in my battle used some auto select Golem and they seemed to be acceptable since it was partly cloudy vs Charge Beam/Hyper Beam Deoxys. ShB Mewtwo and dark Tyranitar are clearly the best all-around (supreme) counters. Gengar is fast glass.

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