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Safest Bets article and actual moves given to Gen III species

So how did the predictions turn out? At first glance:

1. Vaporeon is no longer the best Water-type attacker. Gyarados is, thanks to Waterfall.
2. Metagross and Gardevoir can be great Psychic-type attackers. Of course, they pose no threat to Mewtwo, so the more important question is whether they will make our Psychic glass cannons (Alakazam and Espeon) irrelevant. Another consideration is that Metagross may be more useful as a Steel-type attacker and likewise for Gardevoir with DG.
3. Salamence may be slightly better than Dragonite.
4. Blaziken did not get a double-Fighting moveset, so I guess it would be slightly worse than Machamp, except when facing Normal-types with Fairy-type moves. As a Fire-type attacker, it also looks slightly worse than Flareon, Moltres and Entei (but makes Arcanine and Charizard even less relevant).
5. With no Rock-type quick moves for Aggron, Arnaldo, Rhydon and Tyranitar, Golem remains the best Rock-type attacker, along with legacy Omastar. In contrast, Flygon and Swampert have MS/EQ to compete with Rhydon.
6. How does Sceptile with BS/LB compare to Exeggutor with BS/Solar?

There were no predictions about Normal-types and how Slaking would (or would not) break the meta. It has a Fairy-type charge move and could be an even worse nightmare than Blissey (depending on how Yawn turns out).

Asked by hkn7 years 8 months ago
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by Sebhes 7 years 8 months ago

2. Metagross will be an excellent Machamp killer for raids, likewise gardevoir.

3. I honestly don't know hot the new attack compares to Outrage, but it's single bar so id say Dragonite is still preferable due to the available move sets.

4. Machamp remains hands down the best Fighter available. Blaziken is overruled by other fire mons as well.

6. It can compete, but exeggcutor remains the best based on the first analysis.

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Overall, I personality consider Machamp the best. I wouldnt pick that one over Machamp.

Do you mind answering to my reply in your previous topic? I find it remarkable that you didn't manage to beat Omastar.

https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/q-a/failed-omastar-solo

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by Sebhes 7 years 8 months ago

Until gamepress comes with their own analysis:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/7ik0k7/gen_iiis_new_50_classifying_the_good_the_bad_and/

I hope I'm allowed to share links to different websites.

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Of course you are allowed to share links to other websites! Thanks!

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1. Not sure about that. Waterfall generates energy more slowly. I'll spreadsheet it this weekend to get the numbers, but I'm not rushing to TM my Dragon Tail Gary's yet.

2. I think Metagross is way better as a Steel attacker than psychic, and Gardevoir is better as Fairy than Psychic.

3. Salamance is different. The traditional big one bar move, like Hyper Beam but faster and with STAB. Dragonite excels because of the high damage and energy output of Dragon Tail (shared with Salamance) and the best 2 bar move in the game by a wide margin.
Both still extremely useful.

4. On Machamp, it remains the best fighter, but trailed by a tiny distance by Hariyama. Same moveset, slightly tankier, slightly less offensive. Good mid strength anchor for fight raids, and now that we can catch them at level 35 in the wild, is an easy fill in on Ttar and other Fight-weak raids.

6. Double grass eggy still rules the grass world. But Sceptile has a nice move in Leaf Blade, and lacks Eggy's weaknesses inherited from psychic (Bug, Dark, Ghost), as well as the strengths (Fight, Psychic).

Disappointed that Omastar or Kabutops didn't get a rock quick move back. Golem is still the Rock king, unless another release wave changes that.

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Pokebattler has water Gyarados outdpsing Vaporeon by a good amount. Not hard to see why, it’s moves are similar but it’s attack star is much higher.

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Vaporeon is just about 80% as good as Gyarados vs Ninetales, and by extension, in all other neutral matchups. It remains more survivable and you can dodge more easily with it.

http://pogomoves.com/rankings/gym-offense.php?defender=38

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There are already videos out with people soloing Ninetales with WF/HP Gyarados so I don't think any further analysis is needed to determine it's the best moveset to have. WF has higher DPS, lower EPS than WG, but against a target weak to water it is a remarkable upgrade over DT or B for Gyarados. DT might be better for defensive purposes only.

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