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Rhyperior & Groudon

Now that Groudon has arisen and has surpassed Rhydon as the best ground-type attacker, when gen 4 comes out, how do you think Rhyperior will fare against it? Will Rhyperior have a significant max CP buff or a minor one? Will it even be relevant?

Asked by Skybound7 years 3 months ago
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they could always give rhyperior access to better moves then groudon to make him relevant

Edit: or maybe rhyperior will not have to compete with groudon for best ground type because he might turn out to be the best ROCK type again if he gets good moves!

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If the stats formula is still the same by Gen 4, Rhyperior will have 230 stamina, 241 attack and 224 defence, which gives it a CP of 3416 or 7 at level 40 depending on whether CP is floored or rounded.

Rhyperior will be slightly tankier but Groudon has higher attack so Groudon will probably do just as much total damage before fainting but do it quicker, assuming moveset is the same.

As for relevancy it'll depend on moveset, but if the optimal moveset for Rhyperior is the same as, or worse than Groudon's, it'll most likely be worse since there's the candy cost of evolving into the Rhyperior, it may need an evolution item because it does in the main series, and no one wants to use rare candies to get Rhyhorn candies, whereas Groudon just needs candies to be powered, and no player has qualms with using rare candies on legendaries.

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Look at the stats in the main series, Rhyperior just gets +10 to all stats besides speed.

edit - my mistake, max CP would be 3869, the CP I calculated would be for a level 40 Rhyperior with 0 IVs.

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And I thought Rhyperion was gonna be some Godlike Pokemon based on stories from others. Damn, the upset is real...

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If it makes you feel better, most of the other 3rd stage evolutions that enter the pokemon universe in generation 4 are significantly stronger than their second or current stage counterparts

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This is when halfway decent ground moves will be introduced to make up for speed

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"Rhydon is at 3300 and Rhyperior at 3400? Can't really believe that..."

Your instincts are correct, Rhyperior is 3869 according to the 2 sources I have looked at.

HP:230
Attack:241
Defense:224

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Primal Groudon > Rhypherior haha

And if they introduce abilities, that furthers the gap between the two

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Probably will never do abilities. Think about how much more useless Slaking would be if it only learned Yawn and also only used it every other tap, or (Arceus forbid) only used every other charge move attempt.

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For ground types it probably goes:

Groudon > Garchomp > Rhyperior

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I hope that Rhyperior turns out to be completely useless because I don't want to evolve my cool-looking Rhydons to that abomination. Now, how could Rhyperior be useless and Rhydon stay relevant at the same time? I have no idea but I can always hope, lol.

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I have an idea; if held items were to be added, an item exists called 'eviolite' in the main series that allows not-fully-evolved-Pokémon, which Rhydon will be once rhypherior is introduced, to have their defense and special defense stats multiplied by 1.5. Perhaps in Go, when held, it adds a defensive bonus to such Pokémon?

And I agree I was so disappointed when I saw rhypherior. Magnezone has grown on me but still looks ugly...at leasat they didn't just add more magnemites to magneton and call it an evolution

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