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Put tms in the shop?

Would give some people a bit more of an incentive to take gyms again (those that don't spend real money on the game anyway). Or would it just mean everyone paid for coins and tmd all their pokemon to perfection and leave them with nothing to do and no incentivw to raid. Or put a limit of buying 1 tm per week. I don't know. Sure there are millions of others like me who are limited to 2 and 3 star raids and don't have much luck getting tms from them.

Asked by SamosNZ7 years 7 months ago

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I think a better way would to just..make them obtainable in ways other than ONLY raids. But not necessarily from the shop either.

And lets face it....we may as well just say tier 4 raids and above, because the odds of getting a TM from a tier 2 raid for example, seems very....very low, almost to the point where it seems pointless to even consider one. (It can even take ages just to get one from Legendary raids at times.)

Making them rarely drop from pokestops, would be a start I think. Give them similar treatment to Evolution Items.

Maybe also give a higher chance on the 7th spin, not so they are guaranteed like the evo item, but a higher chance of getting one... perhaps 20%, 40%, who knows.

Atleast then it will feel like we have a chance atleast of getting hold of one, other than only from a raid reward.

And it would give players who dont/cant beat raids, hope of also being able to get some TM's if they try...eventually they will atleast get some and be able to use them on their very best pokemon.

I think..if they made them purchasable, people who are willing to spend real money on the game, would have access to an infinite amount of TM's....

this is pretty much getting as close to pay to win as possible atm I think.

They could put some sort of limit on them....maybe you can buy just one within a certain time period, a week, two weeks, and maybe that would work ok.

But yeah....just allow them to drop from Pokestops I think is the best thing they could do with them atm.

I beg to differ. I don't pay to play, and I've gotten 9 Fast TMs and a Charged TM from mostly low level raids. One Fast from a Machamp, most of the rest from Eggy and Muk (Tier 2), and a couple fasts from Magicarp (but that was early on when the drop rate was very high).

Sure, I'd love a few more Charged TMs, but they will come over time. Scyther with night slash needs an upgrade, and I have a few other mon that could use help. Patience, one of the watchwords of the free player.

But not everyone experiences the same results...

they are random, so the results can be so varied from person to person. You may have gotten a half decent amount from lower level raids. But some dont.

Some people have got loads, others have barely any or none at all.

And sure, its simple math also, if someone does more raids, they will have more than someone who does fewer raids.

But you still see people saying how they have done tons of raids and are not getting TMs, 40+ tier 4 raids, without a single TM etc

And then you get some people who do few raids, or do some lower tier raids, and do get TM's.

And I am all for being patient, I play daily, and for the most part im a free to play player, I only incubate one egg at a time, in the infinite incubator, unless I get a 10km (which i pretty much just dont get)

but this game at times...it pushing the total extreme of patience,

think about it...you take a step back and actually think about the amount of time you have been playing and wanting something...and how long it actually takes

you can literally play daily, and go for months just waiting for something and never get it.

Weeks and weeks can go by, doing tier 2 raids, some tier 3....and you never get a single TM

ive been playing since release, and i have never gotten a Larvitar hatch above 84 %, i have 400+ candy and no good larvitar to evolve.

I have done absolutely loads of Eggy raids, and i have had a tm from them just twice, and I have still not yet gotten a good IV eggy from a raid, even though I have done loads of them, whenever i see one.

A big part of the game is RNG and at times it can just not happen for you.

Thats why I think putting TM's as pokestop drops is good overall, its still rng, but we have another method of potentially getting one.

You have good luck with that given that you have to raid every day and only can do it once. I guess the rate for TMs given this guys numbes is like 15% for a low level raid (1 in 6-7 really?) because he could have only done around 70 raids since the number of days since raid launch and he would have to raid every single day. I am not convinced that you only raid once per day. Sorry. Especially now that even at high levels i wonder if it is even 15%. That would mean that one could get 1 every 6-7 low level battles on average. NOT. I didin't get my first until I did around raid #40.

Im trying to work towards duoing/soloing 3 star raids. Ive tried to raid once every day since it began and ive got 1 ftm to show for it and enough rare candies to evolve dragonair into dragonite. Sometimes 2 raids a day but always 1 or 2 stars since if you skip a day you effectively get 2 tickets the next day

raid pass selling 100 coins, so how much coins for a tm? lol wake up dude

How much? Make it 1000 for a ftm 1500 for a ctm if you want to be extreme. Available once every 2 or 3 weeks or even once a month... or a requirement of 10 raids completed before purchase becomes available again .. I don't know. At least it would be an option. Thanks for taking the time to comment anyway.

so 1000 coins, will you buy it

Personally? With my current situation with the game absolutely yes. Id rather tm the only 96% machamp etc ive got than pay for an incubator that might give me a higher iv mon that id need to then walk for candies to evolve and pray its the right moveset like the 7 or 8 rhydons ive evolved that have rs/mh. With locations/real life affecting this game not everyone has 10 high iv versions of the "mvp" mons to choose from. Pokestops and coins are no problem for me. I don't buy coins. Pokeballs and potions/revives are no problem for me. The "mvp" mons i have are a cunt of a problem for me when they dont give me a good moveset. I know only one other person who plays. So raids for me are limited to 2 stars if i don't raid with the other person. A 3 star raid is difficult for us. Trust me id love to evolve and max out 6 dragonites etc with the perfect movesets but its not possible for everyone. Honestly tired of raiding exeggutors and magmars etc and recieving potions and revives. Put tms in the shop for me and ill keep the gyms active in this area like a dog with fleas. Either that or quit the game. Im not walking another dratini or machop or lavitar for 125 candies to evolvie it to another crap moveset. F** me with a crowbar

Sometimes you need to use upwards of 5 TMs ya dingus

I havent heard anyone use the word dingus for quite some time. Up there with drongo. Thank you for the nostalgia

They are so rare now. I think they should put a chance to get them in a 7 day stop like the special items, not a regular non-7 day pokestop.

Yeah, if available in any other way, then 7th day streak is the way to go. How many evolution items do we actually need anyway? If there was a chance to get a TM instead of an evolution item from the 7th day streak, I don't think anyone would be complaining.

yes because i have too many kings rocks and those evolutions tend to suck anyways.

7th-day gym spin sounds like the perfect spot for TMs and/or other special raid rewards. Keep the current free raid pass per day and add a reward for 7-day streak gym-stop spin.

I also think that the raid pass should work for that gym for the entire day. That would be awesome.

I don't like the idea of buying TMs. I think you should have to play the game to get them. Maybe, ad a level up reward, or from getting a gold gym badge, if you want a guarantee of getting some, would enrich the game.

However as a level up reward ..and depending how far you're willing/able to travel for this game to get gold badges, thats a limited amount youd receive. You could do something like "1 awarded for every 20 gyms beaten" but then that would cop more abuse than a snowman in hell

Just an FYI, most who spend on the game already have access to unlimited TMs if they're in a decent raid area.

And those that don't spend money on the game don't need any motivation to do gyms enough to get coins

I think TMs are one of those items you should play to get, not pay to get, for reasons already mentioned in this thread. So making them rare drops from stops like evolution items is the way to go IMO. Golden razz berries and rare candies should also be obtainable from stops as rare drops, if you ask me.

I don't disagree with your stance and I understand it, but I do think it's flawed.

I'm in an average raid area. I raid a good bit and buy a decent amount of raid passes. I'm drowning in them....worse the guys with junk attackers in my area are well off for them too. They "deserve" them less than I do for paying if we are being honest. I have around 50 or 60 with no conceivable use for any more of them until gen 3.

If you think limiting their availability from the store matters to those that pay you are mistaken. It only effects those that are in bad areas or don't pay for more than the free raid pass. I'm not far from having to throw them on mons I'll never power up.

Maybe it is different in a different area but here making them purchasable would have no real effect other than having a few trainers raid a little less. But considering 65% of trainers don't know about SE/NVE I doubt it would even matter that much tbh.

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