Powering up Paranoia

The point is it doesn't affect anything in a overly negative manner save for Groudon and Kyogre and those moves are already in the game. Rayquaza's signature is flying. Lati@s's signature is psychic. Lugia's signature is flying but it's likely a one-bar move so sky attack still has an advantage. Mewtwo's signature is psychic but Mewtwo's main role in this game is a Ghost attacker, and Psystrike is plain bad.

But when it comes to Groudon and Kyogre it means disaster by plain and complete word. I've talked to others and they don't believe such a community day will come, since Kyogre already had shiny by that point and having a community day would be redundant, even on gamepress discord. And out of them the only one that would be truly negatively affected is Groudon, since Precpice Blades is the only good ground type moves in the game and beats earthquake significantly. While lv30 Earthquake Groudons cannot reliably solo Jolteon, 2-3 Lv30 Precpice Blade Groudons can solo Jolteon itself like how 3 or 4 Kyogres with Hydro pump can easily solo a Donphan. However, Kyogre can be affected in the same way since Origin Pulse makes Kyogre a much better generalist.

Be noted that Groudon and Kyogre's signature moves are already in the coding, and their only drawback is being one bar. Anyone of these moves do not only adversely affect the viability of existing Groudons and Kyogres but will make ALL GROUND AND WATER POKEMON OBSOLETE. Understand what the word O-B-S-O-L-E-T-E Means. It means that they are no longer worth a cent no matter how you put them in.

As for the non-legendaries they are free, so it's not much of an issue. Sure you are going to lose stardust and candies but it is not such a big issue because the non-legendaries are free. You do not need money to get them save for community day boxes which you can afford to not buy. The legendaries need lots of money aka raid passes to raise and find. You need to raid for good ones, they might flee because you missed a few balls, and you need dust and rare candies to feed them. If they publish a move that makes the major role of all non-exclusive specimens obsolete, this is the problem.

"2, signature moves will likely never be added, lugia's been around 3 times, still no aeroblast, Ho-oh hasn't been able light its Sacred fire, and Mewtwo cant get Psystrike despite being an EX raid for the entire run of EX raids The lati's didnt get their signature moves, and neither did kyogre when it came back."

All this means is that the signature moves haven't come out YET. As we all know, the game is about escalation. If they come out with a new legendary that's a weaker version of Kyogre, no one will be overly interested in it. But something like Dialga or Heatran, people will be all over that, because they are more powerful than what's out there before it.

Signature moves are likely being held back as another level in that escalation. Look at Tyranitar with Smack Down, that move made Ttar relevant for rock battles, the old Bite/Stone Edge was all right, but second to Golem. SD/SE outpaces Golem easily (and I write this as someone who got very good use from my Golem army).

The issue for Niantic is controlling these moves. They don't want everyone to be walking around with a team of six 100% Kyogres with Origin Pulse, and so forth. So they need to find a method that gives a casual player the ability to get the special move, but doesn't give the die-hard player the ability to get dozens of them with top IVs. Raids, EX raids, Community Day, Special Research Breakthroughs, and Raid Days are all examples of Niantic trying to get the right balance between the factors mentioned above.

I suspect that the special moves will be added in some other way, to limit their proliferation, and it will happen down the line. There's still plenty of original content to add too.

Note things like CP creep. Remember when Mewtwo's CP of nearly 4000 was thought to be ridiculously high? Now it's a kind of average legendary (albeit still strong because it's best Psychic and best Ghost, as well as having a strong fighting charged move available to it). Arceus, Dialga, and Palkia are all around 4600, and Regigigas is almost 5000 (possibly limited by effects related to slow start). I suspect gen5 and gen 6 will have legendaries in the 5000 CP range, or if not, the power will be increased by adding better moves (like signature moves).

The best pokemon in the game have to change and get stronger, otherwise the game will stagnate. That's just the reality. Gonna go all out for Suicune when you have an army of Kyogres? Doubt it. But if Suicune gets some potent move, might be worth spending a few raid passes on.

So I suspect signature moves, and things like Mega forms, are still out there, with Niantic holding them back for later use. Let's just hope they aren't set up so that one's investment in Kyogre can't be parlayed into one with Origin Pulse - if we have to start over, many experienced players will bail, and switch to some other game.

I admit I was initially on the side of "So who cares?" but the more I sit on it the more I'm starting to lean on the side of "This is a terrible precedent they've set in motion."

It isn't so much that they're released with better moves, it's that they're TM-locked. Had we been able to swap our already powered-up Zapdos this would largely be a non-issue. While I personally don't feel too burned on the Zapdos front even with one powered up to mid-30's, it's pretty understandable why others may feel that way. I'll say this is different that Bady Slam Snorlax being reintroduced, as that's something that had already been around. How different would it have been if when Gen 3 dropped they un-legacy'ed it and made Heavy Slam legacy in its place?

You mention signatures not being introduced despite Doom Desire, Psycho Boost, Psystrike, Origin Pulse, and Precipice Blades being in the game master already (3 of which are pants-shittingly powerful). Those last two in fact are big points of contention; Even with Kyogre and Groudon being ungodly powerful as is, it's a lot of resources to max even one of them out. Having to spend all those same resources on Kyogre V2 and Groudon V2 is going to sting, not everyone has limitless rare candy and stardust reserves.

While it's true (and a bit of a headscratcher, really) that Lugia and Ho-Oh didn't get Aeroblast and Sacred Fire respectively, who's to say they won't be introduced eventually? What if next year they each get a 3 hour paid community day to be caught? Articuno and Zapdos day literally print money for them, it's too tempting for them not to.

Articuno didn't get a special move because what else could they give it? Zapdos got Thundershock likely because it was an unreleased legacy, or potentially because its shiny sprite isn't all that different. Moltres has Flamethrower as an unreleased legacy which has about the same utility as Overheat, so that likely won't ruffle as many feathers should they make it available.

I guess the point I'm getting at here is that it's less about the move itself as CB Zapdos as well as TS Zapdos are still outclassed by Raikou and more about the terrible business practice it puts in place. While it's expected that new Pokemon will eventually outclass older ones at a semi-predictable schedule, what they've done is show that any given Pokemon has potential to outclass itself at a moment's notice. The only other business I can think of that actively punishes loyal customers are cable companies.

Of course this game is free to play, if someone wants to make a point they can stop paying with money for coins and rely solely on gym winnings instead.