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Optimal Clefable/Crobat level?

Hey all. I was lucky enough to roll both a perfect IV Clefable (with ZH/DG) and a perfect IV Crobat (with AS/SB).

Is there a sweet spot to power these guys to where I can:
1) Be a dick to Machamps
2) Maintain gym height optimally
...or will I have to make a tradeoff between these two goals?

I have a lot of high-tier players in my area so opportunities to slot these in will likely abound. Just curious what the ideal CP for perfect Clefable and Crobat should be.

Asked by DeboThirtySeven6 years 6 months ago
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Celfable has a max CP of 2353 and Crobat has a max CP of 2466.

You could max each of them and it wouldn’t cause them to de-motivate too quickly, and would increase their Machamp-walling abilities.

I’m not sure about their bulkpoints but I’d power them up whenever you’re itching to power something up, say at least to 30 and then make a project out of it.

Do you have other high tier gym defenders aside from the “Big 4”? Gardevoir, Slowbro/Slowking, Muk, etc.

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Crobat goes down fast to electric types or Mewtwo
And what's SB?

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Shadow Ball

And the whole point of Crobat (along with Clefairy or Gardevoir) is to make attackers spend more time by switching out Machamp in fights.

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I want to believe that he also annoys Mewtwo by firing of a SB before he dies, but probably Mewtwo kills him before that

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There's a significant difference between the CP decay between 2000 CP pokemon and 2300+ CP pokemon. I did some quick calculations which suggest that after 3 hours, a 2000cp Clefable or Crobat will have higher defender CP than a maxed one. For Clefable, level 30 hits the mark, for Crobat it's lower, at 28.5.

If you want short term effectiveness and gym height, maxed is the way to go, but if you want them to keep for a bit longer, I'd advise to leave them at a lower level. Crobat and Clefable exist in the fairly rare range where you actually get significant returns from not leveling them up too high.

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by Kazlu 6 years 6 months ago

Both will never go beyond 2800-3000 cp, so the sweet spot for gym height (and to annoy machamps the longest) is as close as you can to 1952cp. Other than that, a maxed one will be stronger and more annoying at full motivation but will demotivate much faster.

Check out the last articles about gym defense meta.

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