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Onix solo failure

Not complaining this time, though, but I want to share about my soloing Onix experience.

I met an Onix today, I was like, why not? I went in and it had RT/SE.

So I used a team of 3 Venusaurs, 1 BS/SoB Exeggutor, 1 Waterfall/HP Sharpedo and 1 WG/HP Vaporeon in Cloudy weather.

Among the 3 Venusaurs, 1 Solar Beam (level 35) and 2 Frenzy Plant (level 31/30).

Order: level 35 Venusaur, level 30 Exeggutor, level 31 Venusaur, level 30 Venusaur, level 31 Sharpedo, level 31.5 Vaporeon.

I had enough time to take 4 tries to not waste a raid pass, and in my best attempt, I messed up (dodged way too much) and server lag did not register the 4th Solar Beam before the Stone Edge hit (the 3rd attempt, the laggiest one, barely started at 176).

In the last attempt, I was at 1 Hydro Pump from Sharpedo away from victory.

Conclusion:

If you want to use Solar Beam on Venusaur, try to get 4 off. If not enough HP remaining, switch after the 3rd one hits.

Frenzy Plant is frenzy good, but it has a late dodge window, Venusaurs can faint to a Stone Edge right before a Frenzy Plant hits.

The final Vine Whip (probably also Bullet Seed) breakpoint seems to be important, and that was how my Solar Beam Venusaur could get ahead of the clock (the other Pokémon have "low" DPS). Although pokebattler shows it is possible with Venusaur in neutral weather at level 30, it is slightly behind the clock in practice.

Finally, don't dodge/switch too much, like how I messed up my best attempt.

Edit: some minor text fixes.

Asked by 333-blue6 years 11 months ago
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by hkn 6 years 12 months ago

No Gyarados with WF/HP?

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I wanted to save for the 6th special research lol. Oh wait, I checked, I already reached the 6th special research. Damn, I forgot about that thing.

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by Oscarv 6 years 12 months ago

> I met a RT/SE one today, I was like, why not?
How did you know before spending a raid pass?

> Frenzy Plant is frenzy good, but it has a late dodge window, Venusaurs can faint to a Stone Edge right before a Frenzy Plant hits.

Isn't it at least better than Solar Beam in that respect, which has an even later time of effect and long energy buildup?

Probably it can be worth trying a Leaf Blade Sceptile. Leaf Blade is also good for attacking cycle DPS thanks to its short active times, and Sceptile has significantly higher attack stats than Venusaur. Also I would throw in a Kyogre.

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Maybe to clarify:

I met an Onix today, I was like, why not? I went in and it had RT/SE.

Good point anyway.

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:)

[ + I edited my post to say something about the moves]

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Normally a Stone Edge hits in the middle of Solar Beam cycle, and switching does not lower the cycle DPS significantly right after a Solar Beam hits. So switching then get hit right by another Stone Edge gives you some energy.

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I had a similar experience yesterday, I looked at it's CP and totally underestimated it.

Started out my first attempt with a vape and a gyara, but couldnt beat the clock then because vaporeon will survive for a long time, but it's DPS was too low, so timed out.

Second I attempted twice with a gyara and my frenzy plant venusaurs (who all have razor leaf as fast attack) and still didn't manage! So I ended up owering up gyara and 1 venusaur past a breakpoint and finally managed to beat it by a hair...

What mattered in the end for me I think was not because waterfall did more damage after powering up, but because gyara pulled off an extra hydro pump before fainting. So might've just been luck...

my winning team:
L33 Gyara WF/HP - 15 att
L34 Venus RL/FP - 15 att
L33 Venus RL/FP - 12 att

Vine whip should make it even better

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No breakpoints for Gyarados above level 32.5, and powering up the first Venusaur once (when switched to Vine Whip) can help.

Edit: downvotes for a fact?

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yeah, gyara was a lv 31 and venus was a lv 32 on these 2 failed attempts. Can't go past lv 34 yet, but it shouldn't be much longer ;)

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Our Onix raid solo guide doesn't recommend using non-Gyarados counters unless they are around level 35.

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Onix have same difficulty in guide like Omastar. It should be changed. I needed 30-35 mons to beat him with few sec left( and 2 tries), while i won my first battle vs Omastar using 33 lvl Sceptile, 36 machamp 2 x Groudon 20, Eggy 20 and SoB Venusaur 32

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