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New spoofing "prevention" a complete joke?

So basically, this new anti-spoofing measure that Niantic has adopted means that if they detect you spoofing a pokemon, that pokemon will be "slashes" and you probably won't be able to use it in a gym.

So what Niantic is telling us is that they infact CAN detect spoofing and that they won't actually anything to remove spoofers from the game. Now spoofers can safely spoof and the worst case scenario is that they catch an unusable pokemon IF they are detected. Spoofers can also safely keep all of their 57 maxed out 100% Blissey and 88 maxed out 100% Dragonites.

If Niantic does not want to outright permaban spoofers, which I can kind of understand from a business perspective, the punishment from being detected should AT LEAST be a complete ban from entering gyms/raids, not just making that one mon unusable.

Asked by BlueSwan7 years 9 months ago

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But if all their spoofed mons are unusable, what's the problem if they have some legal ones? I will be curious to see if a local player who is notorious for pages and pages of Blissey's escaped unscathed. He didn't spoof but you bet your ass he was scanning that week of February.

we should wait to learn for more how Niantic stop spoofers or bots. I think it's a good idea to block spoofers so it prevents them spoofing to gyms/mons. At least it's a progress for me if the cheaters' mons useable but act randomly.

So if someone has something you don't have then they must be a spoofer or must use scanners...I see your logic.

Even in text we can see how green your eyes are.

If this is true then the thing is worst than my biggest fear.

Niantic does not want to lose them as players just to keep saying lies about their numbers, their players, their km's walked, their catches etc..But this affects ALL players. I have read that there are sooo many mon that spoofers can keep and use that probable the slashed ones are less than 0.0001 %, correct me if I am wrong but this is a measure to catch botters and most of spoofers are still playing normally without punishment.

The big problem I see with Niantic not banning them is..Imagine I cheated and get 100 Tyranitar and Blissey. Imagine that by coincidence all of them are slashed and not usable in gyms. Until this point it is amazing, well done Niantic. But..If you don't ban that account, this players has THOUSANDS of the top tier candy, he just need to hatch some more in a "legal" way and powering them up, so bye bye to this measure in a matter of nothing, hatching or catching a Larvitar or a Chansey is not that hard when probably they have thousands of coins and can walk aroud for 8h/day from their sofa...

Fake location should be the target asap, not just marking mon in a box and make them not usable in fights, they can identify them if they can slash their mon, so why the hell not ban that account?! I can't believe this is even happening...Niantic you are so greedy that the water in front of you is not letting you see the hole sea...When were you making more money? One year ago at launch with milions of players playing legally or with cheaters or spoofers? Of course with legal players, we have payed your bills, we are not a simple number, we are people and if you keep doing like this your I really hope your business break and this game goes to another company.

You have some fair points. The cheaters do have a surplus of top tier candy and if would be easy to get bee legal mons. It is likely that have hundreds of thousands if not millions saved up in dust too.

That being said you're being a little dramatic complaining about how you want them to break and have the game go to smother company- as if that would ever happen.

Well, I don't know if that could ever happen, but have seen it happen in other games. Again, I say if the statement we are "guessing" is true, and they are able to identify that players indeed and don't want to ban them forever just because they think they are more important than us is then I wish it would happen and hope they break for sure, because I feel like they are laughing at me as a customer that has payed the game.

This is not just bugs, lack of content, login problems, bad community management, this is a lot bigger, this is saying to all legal players that they prefer cheaters and spoofers than us, and if they ever have to choose they will keep choosing cheaters because they give higher numbers than the legal ones. I repeat, I am just speculating because of the thread, I will keep finding more information about this hole measure, but does not look good for me at all.

^ Wake up to this Niantic,
The game is unfortunately flawed and legit players will continue get shit down their throat.

Welcome to capitalism. Everything comes down to maximizing profit. Where people get this idea that companies will police themselves, or have some kind of moral compass and will do what is right, is beyond me. They keep babbling about this "competition" BS, but capitalism has nothing to do with legit competition, it is about crushing it. Niantic doesn't even need to crush competition because they have the rights to it.

Nothing is going to change because they don't want to change it, it would hurt their bottom line. I guess what I would ask as to level the playing field...let me play from my couch. I'm not tech savvy enough to figure out how to spoof or other things, especially with all the stuff they keep doing. If they aren't serious about stopping it, let everyone partake in it...at least give me a reasonable chance to fight back...

I think, the measure taken is a bit subtile, and it is quite strong. There is a message - we know you were cheeting. Look out.
Those cheaters cannot brag with their top-pokemon.

I am not sure about thousands of dragonite- or blissey-candies hoarded. I think, most of those candies are already invested in now unusable mons.

Let's see, i am looking forward to the time coming. Niantic seems to have grown and they go into the right direction.

Maybe they see a chance, that former cheaters now start to play legit.

They have no possibility to detect a spoofed mon that was caught using tracker maps. The only mons getting a Slash are the one caught by bots.

AT LEAST be a complete ban from entering gyms/raids, not just making that one mon unusable.

At the moment all players notice how the game without gyms feels. It is simply - boring.

Completely banning a player from gym-play is pretty much the same as banning this player completely from the game.

They'll probably release an update with a joystick as an option. Just like AR-mode.

Would be fun if they'd release a Pokemon Sit version with a joystick, display all mons sitting on a sofa and let them battle each other while sitting on sofas in their own living-room styled gyms.

Like.. Imagin If Eric Cartman decided to play Pokemon Go. What "proactive" measures he would take so he could sit back at home and destroy other trainers.

I would love to see his reaction when all of his pokemon got xed out :D

Lmao. Kenny catches his reaction with a smart phone and gives him a billion viewers

Dammit this is a very good concept for an episode! :o

And Kenny doesn't remain aware and doesn't remember to pay attention to his surroundings and somehow dies.

nah dude, It's his ticket out. He can finally take his fam away from Shi Tpa Town THEN he die's in some horrible peaceful way. The END.

It's possible they prefer deterring over outright banning - just like shadowbanning.

Niantic could've chosen to ban all who had used iv-check apps, but they decided to give an effective warning instead. I'm sure everyone who has used such apps is now playing fair (at least I am).

So, the aim can simply be to convert spoofers into legit players. Anyone is free to believe that soopfers are too far gone and that Niantic's attempt is pointless, but not everyone has to agree with that thought.

Not that I want to disagree, but I think there is a big difference between IV checkers and spoofing/botting. My understanding is that botting, even spoofing, isn't easy. They are constantly changing things, disabling apps, and making it more difficult, yet spoofers keep going through the trouble to continue spoofing. I don't really buy the idea that these people will simply turn legit, I think they would quit playing first.

And there is a good chance you are correct about spoofers/botters being shameless. But keep in mind that outright banning is almost never a good 1st move, and we don't know for how long Niantic have had the capability to distinguish spoofers/botters WITH PRECISION.

If they only recently acquired this new tech, then it makes perfect sense for them to try a soft measure first before going with a nuclear option.

Actually, now that everyone knows Niantic can do this, the onus will be on them to scale up the countermeasures should spoofing/botting problems persist. I won't be surprised if they will deliver the good old banhammer a few weeks from now.