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Minimum IV for Trading Legendaries?

So, to follow up with my previous question about IVs, I now wish to know how much of a gamble trading shiny Pokemon is. I have a shiny Groudon and shiny Lugia that are at 80% and 78%, respectively. Is it worth risking it to trade them for one of the same to try to get a higher IV? I know IVs are re-rolled when trading, but do legendaries get some kind of benefit of not going below a certain IV? I don't want to end up with a shiny legendary that's "not likely to make much headway in battle..."

Asked by GigaBowserX6 years 2 months ago
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No benefit at all.

If you trade with a best friend, then the average comes out to be 66.7% or 10/10/10.

At your levels of IV I think it’s worth a try. Anything above 85 I don’t think is worth a reroll.

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Isnt best friend's floor 5/5/5?

10/10/10 was the only lucky floor,

Edit, didnt See the average, saw the 10/10/10 and best friends and went to check the trade floors, my mistake average would be the 10/10/10

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Floor for best friends is 5/5/5 which makes the AVERAGE resulting IV 10/10/10. In other words, for a trade between best friends, each IV can be anywhere from 5 to 15, so the average IV is 10.

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Soooo...my Groudon is currently 11/13/12, but if I trade it for another there's a good chance it would go down to something around 10/10/10? I don't like those odds too well.

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Its floor will be 5/5/5, not 10/10/10, i would not trade it.

Edit: misred the comment, didnt see the average before the iv numbers, which would be 10/10/10, my mistake

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depends on how many you have. If that is your 11th groudon out of 12, trade makes sense. If it's one of two, maybe not. Do you need it as is for something, or not? If not, you can trade it.

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Well, technically it's one of one, because it's my only shiny. I'm just worried that the IV would go down and I'd end up with an even worse shiny Groudon.

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My reasoning is that you wouldn’t really power up a 11/13/12 anyway so it’s worth a shot to reroll and even if it goes below 10/10/10 it’s not the end of the world. Above 13/13/13 or so then maybe you will power, so is not worth the trade.

But up to you really. The average is 10/10/10 but so maybe your odds are 35% better and 65% worse or something like that. That’s pretty good odds compared to many gambles out there.

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Its also worth looking at the break/bulk points on a groudon's moves before hand. I know someone in my discord got a 11/15/15 and when including best friends it got to the highest MS breakpoint from what i remember.

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by hkn 6 years 2 months ago

A legendary that is not likely to make much headway in battle can only be acquired by trading. How is that for rarity? /s

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There's a picture floating around of someone who traded a shiny Lugia shortly after trading became available that rolled the floor of 1/1/1. Unless you're doing someone a solid and trading a shiny they don't have or if it's part of a guaranteed lucky trade I'd be very wary about trading them with the intent of rolling higher IVs. Not that it can't happen; while not legendary I did a shiny Psyduck swap and got a 96% non-lucky.

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Yeah, I kind of like a solid 80% IV as opposed to a more likely drop to 60-something with a CHANCE (a chance, mind you) to get higher than 80%.

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by TTT 6 years 2 months ago

Of course your preference may differ:

My opinion is that if I'm not going to power as is, I might as well try rerolling.

I wouldn't power my 76% iv shiny over my 91% lucky or 96% regular, so I might as well try trading shiny for shiny. Maybe I'll get a lucky trade or roll better IVs, and since we both already have the dex entry I assume the Stardust cost is okay.

That said, if you plan to power your shiny anyways, then I wouldn't recommend trading it. Generally if you're accepting more variance you should have a higher expected value, however in this case you're accepting variance and a lower expected value.

Basically: if my shiny is just going to sit at level 20 as a trophy anyways, it doesn't really matter if it's 11/12/11 or 5/6/7: either way it's never being used. But if I happen to reroll lucky or anything higher iv, it might become worth powering and hence a great trade!

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I'm wondering if something around 80% is still worth powering. I mean, of course you want the highest IV possible, everyone wants that. But I posted a question about how much IV really matters, and the general consensus seemed to be that it is mostly the icing on the cake, not the cake itself. I'm thinking moveset, type matchup, and base stats matter a bit more than IV, although higher IV does equal better (slightly). Your answer does say that if I'm planning on powering the shiny regardless, then not trading is probably a good idea. I really want that shiny powered up, so I'm thinking of keeping it as-is.

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If you haven't done the guaranteed lucky trades, I highly suggest to do so with legendaries. I did it with a Mewtwo and it's a guaranteed good IV%. You just have to trade something from July or Aug 2016 and you have to have less than 10 luckies.

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Unfortunately I don't have anything from back in 2016, I only started playing last year. It would be awesome if I did, though.

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