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I'm having a lot of problems with soloing Machamp, I failed before and you said I should power up a bulky attacker, so I powered up an eggy to lvl 35 as well as powering up the rest of my team, now all of them are lvl 35 but I still failed, why?

Asked by 0spreydave7 years 2 months ago
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by 1ucas 7 years 2 months ago

All those pokemons are high lvl tier 1 Machamp counters so your team should be more than capable of soloing Machamp.
Try dodging a bit more (I know it's hard because Machamp's charge moves dodge windows aren't wide) , if you manage to get 2 fs per espeon/alakazam I'm pretty sure it should be going down no matter what.

Hope it helps, I am also on my way to soloing Machamp.

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Too many glass cannons...if you are not able to dodge to get off two FS with espeon, alakazam, then they are useless.

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This, and the order isn't helping, put a glass cannon 1st, not Mewtwo - 1st up can't get hit by a charge move straight away.

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What these two guys have mentioned.

I run Psycho Cut in favor of Confusion on Alakazam
and Zen Headbutt in favor of Confusion on Espeon, both strictly for doding purposes. Yes, the dps is slightly inferior, but having the ability to charge up energy significantly faster (in the case of pc) and having a .6s cooldown vs a 1.6s cooldown is soooo nice. The difference in time between ZH and Confusion for espeon is 1.1s vs 1.6s, still a half second difference which is still relatively big.

Also, I saw someone post a Gengar in their raid party below. Gengar is super helpful against Machamp because if Machamp is running only fighting moves, Gengar TRIPLE resists fighting

[Thanks to it's immunity (ghost) * resistance (poison) multipliers it receives from fighting attack; essentially taking in
(1/1.4)^2 * (1/1.4) = (1/1.4)^3 ~~ 0.36x damage before STAB is factored in {then I THINK it's ~0.43x?}]

Even a missed dodge won't hurt that* much! With that being said, Shadow Claw is very nice to have (if you have any). If not, hex may do, but I would still stick with your current 6 and change at least alakazam's quick attack to psycho cut

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I think pokebattler.com/raids/machamp would be very helpfull for you.
If you sign up and put your pokemon in the pokebox, you can see the time to win and the damage six of this pokemon would deal (power).
If the average of time to win is lower than 175s and the sum of power is higher than 600% than you are able to win.

Edit: Sorted by power is the best for solo raids

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And more informations would be helpful:
What was your problem? Out of time or team was dead?
And which moveset had the Machamp?

EDIT: I just saw it: your team was dead...

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This is the team I used to solo machamp. All have the proper moves and all are level 30 except for the executor and Espeon which is a lil higher. Everytime I get two FS off with the first 3 glass cannons the rest is no-Dodge tapping and it falls. The two FS is what really matters in my opinion. I also start the raid like 10 seconds late and finish with around 10 seconds to spare.

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Check out my team. I usually win at around 8-17 seconds. This team has 3 bulky mons and 3 glass cannons. If I were to do it again, I would probably use my maxed Moltres instead of Flareon, thereby adding bulk and DPS.

Moves:
C/FS
SC/SB
C/SoB
ZH/P
FS/FT
DT/O

This beats CC and DP, I did not test it against HS.

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It is a wild catch that has poor IVs (47% or so), I just used him there because he's my only double psychic Exegguttor and I wanted to beat Machamp without extra investment. I would neither TM nor power him up.

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I have 8 eggy from my 1166 prestiger (yep keeping them just in case) all the way to my maxed 2909 98IV that still have ZH. Why TM? Extrasensory has 10% more EPS but isn’t enough better to cause me to use a TM.

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I'm in the same boat; it's not worth the TM and having ZH on mine still occasionally leaves me reminiscing about the actual physical environment and time from which I caught it, on vacation ::))

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Team looks good, I think you just need know when to dodge or take a hit.

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ZH/SoB isn't worth a crap against Machamp. Either TM it to ES/Psychic, or get it out of there. Bulk doesn't do you any good if it is not doing adequate damage.

Your problem is NOT that you need to dodge more. And you definitely want confusion on the Zam & Espeon.

So, here's what you do:

1. Zam
2. Espeon (the better one)
3. Mewtwo
4. bulky counter such as DT/H Dragonite
5. bulky counter such as DT/H Dragonite
6. Ho-Oh

Do not dodge.

I'm assuming you don't have a Lugia. If you don't have DT/H Dragonites, DT/O will work for one of the slots, but it isn't quite as good. But the first three pokemon should get you way ahead on the clock. Don't worry that the Zam and Espeon die quickly. It is not critical that they launch two future sights.

Please, do not TM Espeon and Zam to psycho cut. They would need to launch an extra future sight just to equal the damage they do with confusion.

This lineup is not that much different than the one I use, and I usually beat Machamp with 30-40 seconds left, with NO DODGING..

edit: Some Machamp movesets are easier to beat than others. Against close combat, you should have no problem. Heavy slam and dynamic punch are harder, and obviously, weather boost makes a difference for both you and the Machamp. But in general, by following my advice, you will be able to win.

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Something I've found to be REALLY useful is putting a few Gengars in the 3-4 slots, if the Machamp is a Fighting/Fighting Machamp.

I unintentionally soloed a weather boosted all-fighting Machamp using 2 Gengars (level 34, Shadow Claw/Hex and Shadow Ball for both, Attack 15 for both), 2 Lugia (Level 25 each, one Flying one Psychic, Attacks 12 and 13) and 2 Esperons (Confusion/Future Sight, Attack 15, level 34 each).

(long story short, three of us were doing a weather boosted Machamp because none of us thought we could solo it and there was a glitch)

I had to do it like 5 times, trying with Alakazam's and Eggy's, with my all Psychic Gardevoir (damn you CTM's... damn you) and failing miserably, but once I put the Gengar's in, I beat it on the second try. (I had the Lugia's in the middle the first time, and didn't have enough damage done, so I moved them to the end)

My Gengars lasted long enough each to get 4+ Shadow Balls without any sort of dodging - that quadruple resistance to fighting is awesome - and it seemed to make the difference. I thought I couldn't do it with a non-weather boosted Machamp, but that line up worked for a weather boosted Machamp.

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Put that Zam in the 1st spot, boss raid tend to charge a little longer in first round, so alakazam can take advantage of that.
If you can manage to fire 2 charge move with zam, and those espeon, you are halfway there.
Other attacker just depend on the situation, whether you wanna dodge boss CM 1,2 or not at all. Sometimes the connection can ruin your effort. When you get the feel of it, you can dodge only when you ready to fire CM, but the boss fire its CM first
For a start, if you can get Machamp boss at yellow before 90 seconds, you can dodge a little bit more.
I personally use Exeggutor with Psychic Charge Move against Machamp, cos i can fire 2 when i need to
At first your winning time probably not good, but win is a win, then you can comfortably win with better time left when you get the hang of it..

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You should not be having problems with that team. Since they are all fainted I'm guessing you fainted instead of timing out, so the solution is to dodge more. You want to dodge with your glass cannons enough that they fire off 2 Future Sight each. Usually against Close Combat they do this without dodging, but against DP and HS you need to dodge one or two charge moves successfully to get there.

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I was in your situation before. The Ho-Oh is exactly where it needs to be, but instead of Extrasensory/Solar Beam Exeggutor, I'd use a Psychic one or replace Eggy with another Espeon or Alakazam. Also, dodge with the glass cannons enough to fire 1-2 Future Sights each. If you do that, then all Ho-Oh needs to do is slam the door.

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