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Why can’t I solo a machamp raid at level 35 I have all his best counters over level 30 except mewtwo what am I doing wrong

Asked by treasureoflove7 years ago
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What are your best mons? Since level 32-33 champs been one of the only only one I could solo but I think it’s because there used to be an abundance of Abras here so even with mediocre stats I have a handful of solid Zams with FS or Psychic. Espeon works almost better because it can usually tank an extra charge or have enough to get more fast moves in. It also depends if you’re getting Heavy Slam ones which are harder to beat

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I have 4 espeons and four alakazams at cp like 2200 I have 5 Lucia’s now high cp exeggutors and I always get really close but run out of time

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Your pokemon aren't strong enough basically.

I'm level 36 and can fairly comfortably solo machamp without weather boosts (pokebattler gives me a time to win of about 150s & 4/5 deaths). I have a 2800 espeon, 2x 2500 alakazam, 2500 double psychic egg, gardevior at 2500 with confusion & dazzling gleam (good tank). I've recently powered up a mewtwo as my 6th machamp slot (actually goes in #3 or #4), but before that I tended to use a 3200 dragon, or 2500 confusion/solar beam egg.

To be honest if you power up 2 or maybe 3 of your espeons to level 30+ you'll probably get there. For example my 2800cp one has a time to win of just 132s.

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Or just catch, buddy, and evolve some boosted Eevees. An 800 cp Eevee will give you an Espeon around 2540+ without any need for stardust. Do four of those with a couple fillers and you should be golden.

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Dragonite :2956 sw/Draco Meteor 2363 with same moves a 2156 w dt/outrage and 2144 dt/outrage
Alakazam: 2035 confusion/fs 1991 confusion/fs 1795 same moves and 2339 with psycho and future sight I think but it’s in a gym
Espeon 2533 zen head butted/physic 2451 confusion/fs and 2312 and 2093 with confusion and future sight
Lugia 2534 dt/skyattack 2030 dt/fs 2013 extrasensory/hydro pump 2005 dt/sky.attack
Rayquaza 2542 dt/outrage 2067 as/ap 2026 dt/ap 2045 dt/outrage 2032 dt/outrage 2027 ancient power/ap

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Don't use Dragonite, only Hurricane is viable.

Use Alakazam 2339 and 2035, why would you ever put an Alakazam (without FB or SB) in a gym?

Use Espeon 2451 and 2312 and 2093, these are very good! If you can, TM your best Espeon to Confusion + Future Sight or Psybeam, and add it to the team.

Tank with your 2534 Lugia.

Basically, with this team, soloing CC Machamps should be possible with some dodging.

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Are you timing out or getting wiped out? It's an important distinction.
If you are timing out you arent dealing enough damage or you are dodging too much. If you are getting wiped out, you aren't dodging enough

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Dragonite :2956 sw/Draco Meteor 2363 with same moves a 2156 w dt/outrage and 2144 dt/outrage
Alakazam: 2035 confusion/fs 1991 confusion/fs 1795 same moves and 2339 with psycho and future sight I think but it’s in a gym
Espeon 2533 zen head butted/physic 2451 confusion/fs and 2312 and 2093 with confusion and future sight
Lugia 2534 dt/skyattack 2030 dt/fs 2013 extrasensory/hydro pump 2005 dt/sky.attack
Rayquaza 2542 dt/outrage 2067 as/ap 2026 dt/ap 2045 dt/outrage 2032 dt/outrage 2027 ancient power/ap

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Get that PC/FS Alakazam back! He should be your lead off Pokemon. TM your best Lugia to Extrasensory. Give one of your Dragonites Hurricane if possible. Your top 2 Espeons are fine.

You are going to need to dodge a few charge moves when using Zam and Espeon for sure. You should be able to beat him once you get your movesets in order

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That’s what I was thinking cause I always get so close even if It has different movesets I figured it was my set up and something I’m doing wrong

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For a long time, before better options became available, I was using
-Alakazam PC/FS
-3 Espeons with different move combos, they're all viable
-Dragonite with DT/Hurricane
-Lugia with Ex/Sky Attack

All the above between lvl 30-32. Dodge as many charge moves as you can til you get to Dragonite and Lugia then tap away

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You should use Dragonite all the time, or Raikou if you have it.

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You have to post your team but Machamp should be easy at level 35. If it has Close Combat is should be very easy.
2200 CP is not particularly high for Espeon or Alakazam, bringing them to level 30 will significantly increase the damage as you'll go up a few breakpoints. You should consider evolving some higher level Eevees or power up if you have any good ones.
Lugia needs to be around level 30 to be truly useful, and with that on your side there's no way you'll lose against Machamp again.

Frontload with your best Espeons/Alakazams (Future Sight is desirable) and anchor with Lugia. Dodge Close Combat and a few Heavy Slams or Dynamic Punches especially if you're about to fire off a charge attack.

It's really just a matter of powering up your pokemon. Probably powering up Lugia will be enough really.

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This! Lugia makes this fight absurdly easy...before you invest your dust into 4 freakin Alakazam where you have to worry about dodging and getting off two future sight I would always prefer one Lugia! If you have a Ho-oh on top those two alone will basically win you this fight! Last time I did a Machamp solo I used a lvl 35,5 flying Lugia before the buff, flying Ho-oh at 31,5 and then a lvl 35,5 Hurricane Dragon finished the job. Now with buffed sky attack it's even easier. Just don't waste your dust for Alakazam.

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😂😂😂 you use a lvl 20 ho-oh and a lvl 25 lugia and you expect to succeed? Come on man...you can't be honest...dust and candy are there to be spent! Of course this team is to weak...

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Dragonite :2956 sw/Draco Meteor 2363 with same moves a 2156 w dt/outrage and 2144 dt/outrage
Alakazam: 2035 confusion/fs 1991 confusion/fs 1795 same moves and 2339 with psycho and future sight I think but it’s in a gym
Espeon 2533 zen head butted/physic 2451 confusion/fs and 2312 and 2093 with confusion and future sight
Lugia 2534 dt/skyattack 2030 dt/fs 2013 extrasensory/hydro pump 2005 dt/sky.attack
Rayquaza 2542 dt/outrage 2067 as/ap 2026 dt/ap 2045 dt/outrage 2032 dt/outrage 2027 ancient power/ap

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Considering what has happened to raiding this past week, I’d consider putting some of this bonus stardust into some Machamp counters. 2200 cp isn’t particularly high. I go in with 3885 Mewtwo, 2774 Gardevoir, 3245 Lugia, 3342 Mewtwo, 3558 Dragonite, maybe a 2540 Espeon. See a boosted one across the street from work, I’ll have 5 min left by time I get there...far as raiding now goes, probably the best boss around

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I love Gardevoir vs Machamp, it totally wrecks it especially in Cloudy Weather. But that team has got to be overkill for Machamp, how many seconds left do you manage to get?

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it was boosted Close Combat, I sprinted there and got there 1 minute before the countdown ended. I won with 49 seconds remaining. Caught a 1988 C/DP, good moves, boosted, bad iv. Far as I can tell, nothing else to do in this game other than power up some of your best pokemon

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No they are not, when the power-up cost reaches 5000 stardust for the third time they are (powering up for the third time will bring them to 30,5).

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Dragonite :2956 sw/Draco Meteor 2363 with same moves a 2156 w dt/outrage and 2144 dt/outrage
Alakazam: 2035 confusion/fs 1991 confusion/fs 1795 same moves and 2339 with psycho and future sight I think but it’s in a gym
Espeon 2533 zen head butted/physic 2451 confusion/fs and 2312 and 2093 with confusion and future sight
Lugia 2534 dt/skyattack 2030 dt/fs 2013 extrasensory/hydro pump 2005 dt/sky.attack
Rayquaza 2542 dt/outrage 2067 as/ap 2026 dt/ap 2045 dt/outrage 2032 dt/outrage 2027 ancient power/ap

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From what you have I'd go with this line-up, no dodging..

Rayquaza 2542
Alakazam 2339
Alakazam 2035
Espeon 2533
Espeon 2451
Lugia 2534

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Ok so my espeon wit highest cp I changed to c/fs and lugia to extra/sky

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Hardware could be an issue too. If your phone is slow and you have too much lag, you're not going to be able to do what you see other people do.

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Shut down all unneccesary apps, check your signal, and see if it makes a dif.

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You know why I’m glad you mentioned thatBecause I remember reading that and I was concerned about it then But I forgot about it could be it Because my phone does act a little different and I just checked my storage and I’m 61 of 64 GB

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by hkn 7 years ago

For reference, this is the squad that I used for my first successful Machamp solo (it had CC):
1. L30 12A/15D/14S Espeon with Conf/FS
2. L30 15A/15D/14S Alakazam with Conf/FS
3. L30 13A/15D/15S Alakazam with PC/FS
4. L30 13A/14D/13S Exeggutor with Conf/Psyc
5. L30 15A/13D/15S Exeggutor with Conf/Solar
6. L30 14A/14D/11S Dragonite with DT/Hu

Replacing the second Exeggutor with a L30 15A/13D/15S Gardevoir with Conf/DG led to a successful solo against DP.

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For comparison, this is about the threshold for a MaChamp solo. It often takes me 2 tries; and I haven't beaten BpHs yet. I just got a hurricane Dragonite to sub in somewhere (probably the PC/SB "DancingQueen").

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Grabbed an old reply to a similar question in the past.

Successful dynamic punch solo team a few hours ago, in order:

2240 CP 84IV Exegg ZH/Psy
2474 100IV Zam C/FS
2518 93IV Exegg ZH/SoB
2456 96IV Zam PC/FS
2373 53IV Exegg C/SoB
2108 80IV Exegg E/SoB

All are level 30 or below. Took three tries and the right dodging to win with ~10 sec left on the last attacker, well into the red. A fellow trainer was unable to win with a higher level team. Start over if you can’t get off 2 charge attacks from the first several attackers.

You don’t need high level Mewtwo or dragon or Lugia....you don’t even need all the right counters (SoB eggy)...but you do need to dodge well if you don’t have overwhelming force.

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Why keep that weird moveset? It has no sense. Bs/SoB or ( Es, ZH, Conf)/Psychic

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Confusion/Solar Beam works perfectly against Machamp, and is way more versatile to take down gyms compared to Psychic.

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If you do the math, neutral SoB hits slightly harder than SE psychic. They are about the same when you factor the energy gain difference.

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