Machamp moveset

I'm wondering the same exact thing! While I kinda wanna keep Cross Chop because it's a legacy move, I definitely want to maximize the damage output of this beast.

I wouldn't do it.

• If you use your RARE charge TM on Cross Chop you don't know that you'll get DP. Infact, you'll probably get Heavy Slam leaving you with something worse.
• You currently have a legacy moveset that you can't reobtain.
• Getting a new Machamp is not THAT hard right now with level 3 raids. He's even soloable with the right mons.

I myself have a 100% Machamp that had double steel moves. I used both a fast and charge TM on him and got Counter (of course) and Close Combat. I'm not rerolling Close Combat because I'll probably end back up with Heavy Slam. TM's are too valuable for me to do that.

But if you are swimming in TM's (one of those lucky players with level 4 raids everywhere), then by all means, go ahead. :-)

Personally I will only use a TM when I am guaranteed to get something better. I don't trust my luck. Especially not in this game.

Cross Chop does more DPS in the 1.5 seconds that it is being used, but that value is meaningless because you cannot use only charge moves in battles and what matters is your average DPS over an entire course of a battle, not how much you deal in a short period of time.

Your actual DPS is a weighted average of your quick and charge moves, so charge moves that use more time and do more total damage will usually do more average DPS than with the same quick move but with a low damage + use time charge move that technically has high DPS.

This is why Solar Beam does more overall damage than Petal Blizzard on Venusaur, why Dynamic Punch does more damage than Cross Chop on Machamp, Outrage vs Hurricane on Dragonite et cetera.