Machamp

no. kc/Crosschop is worth it EPS/DPS wise for legacy but w this moveset you'd be better off saving candy for another in hopes of counter/close or dynamic.

I have a KC/Sub Machamp and I think he does really well. Now he is my only one so I have nothing to compare with, but I can kill a 2750 Blissey with my 2249 Machamp

I powered one up to use as a defender prior to the gen2 release and he did okay, due mainly to his cp. Prior to the Fight buff he'd struggle to take down a Snorlax slightly under his cp (2500), now he'll take down 3000cp Snorlaxes.

I like him.

That really depends. If you have the ability to evolve Machamps, I would hold off. If they are rarer for you, like they are for me, it isn't a horrible investment. Submission is much improved, I use it on my Poliwrath and I am happy with it. Damage wise, it is better than CC (cross chop's DPS is higher because it has a shorter duration.)

i really badly wanted a good machamp all the time; simply couldnt get one with KC/CC but I have one with KC/S so i guess im gonna push this one and complement it with a poliwrath RS/DP or heracross C/CC
what are your views on this?