According to the Max CP for all gens based on PoGo's current formula Lapras is supposed to lose about 377 CP.
That's quite a lot and would deem it almost completely useless in the current gym meta.
Do you think he will get nerfed eventually?
I would agree on that's quite a lot but I will not on it will make Lapras completely useless in the current Gym meta.
Still... After playing this game for quite some time, I can safely say it doesn't really matter what Pokémon is defending a gym. It will be taken down by a dedicated player with adequate resources.
No idea, but in my area, sadly, he's pretty much already useless in gyms honestly...I have hatched a few and maxed them to my level, but if you need to hit around 2800 CP to be in the middle of a gym (for my area), you would need to take a 100% Lapras to Lvl 36 to hit it. That'd require trainer levels 35+ so very few people would be able to do that.
Again, this is area dependent, but this is the side effect of ranking by CP. There can be only 4 (5 w/ common Vaps) for level 10 towers.
Another solution that just popped in my head maybe use a prestige counter so when 10 mons get put in, those stay with the gym till torn down.
If say, 50000 prestige gets taken out, ALL the mons get kicked out now so this would remove the whole own team swiping, etc...You can re-prestige it back to 50k if it drops a little, but those 10 mons are set until the whole gym is torn down. This would force more strategic defender placement so you can prestige quickly, but still make it drag longer near the top...This has an added problem of people attacking just the bottom mon over and over again so you'd need some mechanism/setup where attackers are eventually forced to fight the top mons in the gym.
All this goes out the window of course for extremely dense areas I'd assume (like Tokyo) which probably has no gyms at level 10 with the millions of players/people in a small area.
When Gen 2 comes out, the top 4+vap becomes the top 6+vap (with Vaporeon being the cut off point due to their relative commonality).
What resource exactly is confirming that this CP shift in lapras will occur?
There was a change in the formula with which Basis-Stats (Att, Def, Sta) are calculated out of some basic stats of the original games. For some reason, this formula was applied for all pkm except lapras.
I think, the actual table just uses the formula for all pokemon, so also lapras is included. There is no indication, whether lapras will be recalculated at all.
does this mean we are in for another major cp shift?
IMO not. There is no signal for such a change - but - there was no signal for the last change either.
I am very confident that in the near future Niantic will change how the order of the Pokémon are set for gyms.
I think there are 2 most obvious ways of doing this.
1) First added Pokémon goes to top, last added goes to bottom. This has some flaws and some benefits though. Leveling up becomes less essential because you could still be sitting at the bottom even if you were the highest level with the highest Pokémon.
2) Sort Pokémon by their level, if the level is same then the first added sits higher up in the gym. This will make it harder for lower level players, but this would bring out a lot of possibilities in the game by being able to power up some more unconventional Pokémon and still place high in the gym. Slowbro/Poliwrath would love this.
