Is it worth it to swap DB DC to DB O or to DT DC?
Hi all!
I already asked this question 6 months ago and you all called me fool, but I think that the game has changed enough to ask that again.
I have 2 maxed out Dragonites with the Legacy moveset DB DC and a maxed one with DT O (for maxed I mean lvl 40).
I know that DT O has the highest dps of all the Dragonite's movesets, while DB DC has the best dodgeability, although the new raid era pulls our choices towards the dps ranking and the probable arrival of Rayquaza has brought me to this question.
I usually raid in groups where DPS is the only thing that matters to achieve one or 2 balls more, so would you change the moveset of one of my DB DC Dragonites to DB O or to DT DC?
Tx for answering
EDIT
Dratini's candies are not a problem, nor having another good Dragonite. I only want to know how much better is a DB/O or a DT/DC from someone who tried it
Answers
Definitely don't do DB/O. It is too weird to use, with little DPS gain.
As has been mentioned, community day should help you get another DT/O dragonite. Also, you can get a DT/O Rayquaza, possibly very soon. No need to TM legacy moves for that.
Getting one with DT/DC isn't a terrible idea. Personally, I like that moveset, but it just fits my attacking style more than any other reason.
In the group sizes you seemed to imply for raids, this moveset change will likely give you an extra ball my rarely, if ever.
Yeah sure, I will keep one as DB/DC! I actually don't care about trading, game will be dead imho before it will be added.
I am thinking about powering up a 4th Dnite, it's a little dragon of 600 cp with 98% IV (15 att) actually, I have 1,7m stardust so that's not a problem too. I am not sure about powering up a fourth one coz I would like to max one Rayquaza, one Salamence and one Latios when they will be available, so this would bring my dragon squad already at 6 members. However I am not excluding it. Tx for your answer ^^
DT/DC is a good moveset for the early damage registration while still keeping a 96% of the damage output of DT/OR.
DB/OR allows for better dodging for the fast move attacks but the charge move outrage still leaves you vulnerable, although this usually isn't a problem, this is 94% the output of DT/IR
DB/DC together nowadays is doing too little damage to justify use (88% of DT/OR output).
However given it's legacy merit (and the DT/OR crown going to Rayquaza soon), I see the only real Niche Dragonite has is either DB/DC or DT/DC. So I'll keep it for now. Another point to keep in mind is that Latios also has the DB/DC combo. It will take some time to see who is better at this.
Guy :)
I mean the Legacy factor is certainly there - if DB/DC is still available I would TM it straight away.
I still keep a Dragon Tail/Dragon Pulse 100% maxed out Gyarados. It could've helped me in Groudon raids but I decided against TMing it even it has some of the worst moves possible for groudon
http://pogomoves.com/check.php?lang=en&pkmn=Dragonite&basic=Dragon+Breath&charge=Dragon+Claw
This is the site I usually use. It provides no simulation data as it is a spreadsheet based calculator but if you're looking for pure DPS, this is a good indicator.
I also use the iPhone/Android app Pokegenie. The numbers are sometimes different but not by more than 2%
I think of the two legacy moves, the real winner is Dragon Claw.
High speed and early damage window for clearing gyms, speed helps for damage consistency and allows for good dodging. Dragon Tail really isn't THAT hard to dodge with, as its cooldown is 1.1s (the same as Extrasensory and Snarl - I have no problems dodging with my Lugia). Moreover, Dragon Tail has slightly higher EPS and greatly higher DPS than Dragonbreath, so it is better in every way except for dodge/weave. Additionally, Dragon Claw is very hard to dodge when coming from Gym Defenders, whereas Dragonbreath is much weaker than Dragon Tail on gym defense because of its high speed/low damage.
Also, Latios/Latias will be coming out with Dragonbreath/Dragon Claw, but they won't have the Dragon Tail option that legacy Dragonite retains. It's really the best Dragon Moveset out there. The only Pokemon that has it now is Flygon, which really has terrible stats. If you want to try out the moveset, Flygon will give you that opportunity.
Really though, don't stress too much about Dragonite. I never got a legacy one, but I'm not too bummed since Rayquaza will outdo its DPS and Latios will outperform its Dodge/Weave (at the expense of Bug/Ground resistance). The only thing that this leaves Dragonite is gym defense, in which case DT/DC would be the clear winner. Not a huge deal though since gym defense can be trivial depending on location.
Really no point to use DB/O. 2-bars of a slow charged move means a full energy bar leaves you open for over 8.0 seconds! If you're going to trade vulnerability like that for damage output, go back to Dragon Tail - it has higher DPS and EPS.
