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[Info] List of new Legacy Moves:

This may make you want to hang on to some keepsakes:

- Kingdra: Lost Water Gun, gained Waterfall
- Suicune: Lost Hidden Power, gained Snarl
- Politoed: Lost Earthquake, gained Surf
- Feraligatr: Lost Water Gun, gained Waterfall
- Rhydon: Lost Megahorn, gained Surf
- Gyarados: Lost Dragon Tail, gained Waterfall
- Lapras: Lost Ice Beam, gained Surf

Maybe I missed some? I didn't check prior evolutions.

Source: https://thesilphroad.com/catalog

Asked by WaterYouWading47 years 8 months ago
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Rhydon gained surf?

what

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It's an odd move, but Rhydon has been semi-famous for being able to learn it in the main series games. They even made an anime episode about a surfing/swimming Rhydon.

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by FIBB 7 years 8 months ago

I guess it's too early to ask, but does anyone have any thoughts on how waterfall compares to water gun?

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Water Gun is 5 power and 5 energy in 0.5 seconds
Bubble is 12 power and 14 energy in 1.2 seconds
Waterfall is 16 power and 8 energy in 1.2 seconds

Over 6 seconds, that would mean each gives
Water Gun - 60 power, 60 energy
Bubble - 60 power, 70 energy
Waterfall - 80 power, 40 energy

To give a quick answer, one (simple) cycle with a hydro pump would be
Water Gun - Used 20 times for 100 power, 100 energy in 10 seconds plus 130 power in 3.3 seconds.
Bubble - Used 8 times (round up) for 100 power, 112 energy in 9.6 seconds plus 130 power in 3.3 seconds
Waterfall - Used 13 times for 208 power, 104 energy in 15.6 seconds plus 130 power in 3.3 seconds

Summary (pps is power per second and is roughly proportional, rounding/floor aside, to dps)
Water Gun - 230 power, 13.3 seconds -> 17.3 pps
Bubble - 230 power, 12.9 seconds -> 17.8 pps
Waterfall - 338 power, 18.9 seconds -> 21.7 pps

Rough numbers seem to show it is pretty good.

P.S. Excuse the excess math. I typed as I went.

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According to Gamepress, it's comparable to Dragon Tail but with significantly lower EPS.

Source:
https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/pokemon-move/waterfall
https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/pokemon-move/dragon-tail

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Iron Tail seems like a closer comparison. Waterfall seems clearly better than Iron Tail, but just be a very small amount. Waterfall is +1 power and +1 energy in 0.1 seconds longer.

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