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The future of Pokemon Go

I'm sure a lot of you have looked at the future generations of Pokemon to come, and I think a good conclusion to make is this.

If Pokemon Go is to stay balanced, a huge change in gameplay must be made. And this just isn't making a change to the CP calculator or changing base stats around. The entire game will need reshaping.

For example, the Pokemon abilities were a huge part of making some Pokemon balanced, but with the way Pokemon go is now, there is no such thing that accounts for them. Slaking is the major issue here, with a max CP of 5441, it will be the highest CP Pokemon when gen 3 is introduced. In the games, his ability only allowed him to attack once every two turns, which made him rather balanced, but in Pokemon go, he is beyond broken.

Another example is Shedinja, with 1 HP in the games, his ability made up for it, making only super effective moves deal damage. But again, Pokemon go cannot offer anything of the sort currently.

I also feel that as long as def/atk and special def/atk are defined as one stat in Pokemon go, CP will always be unbalanced.

These are my opinions, and I'm interested to hear yours for the future of Pokemon go.

Asked by andrew21968 years 2 months ago

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First of all I would worry if we gonna see the full gen II someday xD.

I share your feelings here, but I have always thought that CP is not a good way to measure a mon, if the games stays at it is now, without pvp, CP means nothing, the AI of the gyms are way too easy to predict, so even with legendaries, or 5k+ CP mons that does not mean anything to me, it will take maybe 10-15 more seconds to kill that 5k cp mon with my vaporeon,my dragonite or my alakazam, probably even less, everything is subjective.

You can state that placement is gyms is the most important thing, I don't share this feeling, I won't say is totally useless but in my experience around 99% of the times someone attacks a gym he/she takes the hole gym down, does not matter if the 3 last mons are 3,5k or 5k, it will give them just a bit more time or probably use 2/3 more potions and revives, nothing more.

And even if they leave the last 3 mons for example, in a matter of minutes/one hour another person will take the rest of it down.

So I think we don't have to worry of those "big mons", by the time they come (at this speed we gonna get gen III on a year from now) they will have balanced it someway for sure, for example a buff to fight quick moves and a machamp with 2,2k will melt that 5k slaking in a matter of seconds.

Imma just say I agree with everything you say. I would immediately quit if we see more than 1 of each legendary in each gym. I actually hope legendaries are unobtainable and are the final end game to keep people playing. It's not that beating any of the birds would be a huge issue, but that they're suppose to be legendary and impossible to obtain. I've grown to dislike Dragonite from seeing it way too much. I would like a rule change where level 30+ players who place 10 Pokemon in gyms can't place more than 2 or each Pokemon. I'd wanna face some powered up Victribells and etc lol.

"they're suppose to be legendary and impossible to obtain". Have you played any pokémon game before pokémon go? Legendaries have never been impossible to get, just difficult. You are getting tired of seeing the same mon on the gyms? Releasing gen II and all legendaries would change that for sure, or you just don't want to fight strong mons?

If we get all legendaries and the hole gen II there would be a lot more variety to gyms actually than it is now, now it is all about Vaporeon, Rhydon, Gyarados, Dragonite, Lapras and Snorlax, 6 mons, I would love to see a gym with Mew, Mewtwo, the 3 birds, a Tyranitar, even a Blissey, Scizor, Steelix, any of the 3 dogs, Celebi, Lugia...

More mon, more variety to gyms, just because they are name legendaries they are not impossible to defeat, all of them have weaknesses, I just see more fun with legendaries.

You're joking right? Are you a moron of some sort? Do you rem how hard it was catching Mew on your first try? and strong Pokemon? Are you kidding? Dragonite as a strong defender? What planet do you live in? I could take that trash out with a Wigglytuff? You consider that strong? I see more instances of abuse with legendaries with spoofers and such. Now if Niantic regulated this and put a rule such as once a level 10 gym is built up a legendary bird of that team appears on top. Than I'd be all for it. But who tf would want to see 10 Zapdos, Moltres, and Articunos? A level 10 gym with Snorlax would be way harder to beat, but why ruin the legacy of those Pokemon?

Point 1, slow yourself man...Point 2 legendaries are not supposed to be hacked/spoofed, I see them as some kind of quest/quest line so each player can only have 1 of them, and point 3 they will give them at very low cp, so you have to walk to actually power them up, that is the best way to do it so gyms are not full of the same 10 legendaries. You would have to choose which one to power up and place in a gym.

Also don't say Dragonite is easy to beat with Wigglytuff and say legendary birds won't be easy to beat, that is a joke too true? Except Zapdos they all have double weaknesses too.

I still remember at the beggining of the game a lot of people complaining about Dragonite/snorlax and saying all gyms will contain 10 of them, still haven't seen a single gym with more than 2 Snorlax or 2 Dragonite...And I encourage you to read again my comment and quote where I say that Dragonite is a strong defender ;)

Also there is nothing more you can do about hackers, deal with it as we all do, we have to accept there are tons of them with armies of 30+ Dragonites, Snorlax and Lapras all powered up to the max and with 95%+ IV. Are you saying the rest of players can't have legendaries just because of hackers? If this is fair to you ok, but not for me and for many other people.

Quick question what city do you live in? lol I've never seen a level 10 gym without @ least 6 Dragonities and @least 2-3 Lax. But I guess regarding Legendaries would love Legendardies in only 1 instance PvP lol. Don't see how a Mewtwo or a Mew would be fair. Or those 3 dogs from Gen 2. In any case I'm getting sick of Gen 1 like anyone else a more wider release of Gen 2 obtainable outside of eggs would be great.

My city is not very big, we have "only" 11 gyms, but really a lot of people plays the game, gym turnover is huge, never have seen a gym stay more than 24-30 hours, even being level 10 it goes down very fast.

I have seen a decrease in number of players those late months (I don't know if Niantic fault or probably because of the winter), but still people taking gyms and playing since 6am in the morning until 3am in the night.

I guess it is something related to the area, but we are pretty close to Barcelona, my gyms are normally full of vaporeons, the "typical" level 10 gym would be 4 vapes, 1exeggutor, 1 gyarados, 2 rhydon, 1 Snorlax 1 Dragonite, the most amount of those I have seen was once a level 10 gym with 2 Dragonites and 2 Snorlax and another one level 8 with 4 Snorlax, still they did not last very long.

In my town lvl 10 gyms with 10 dragonites became gyms we often see for one reason:
People are tired of being kicked from the bottom of the gym when they add vaporeon/poliwrath/slowbro/etc.
And If there are not 10 dragonites there are something like 6 gyarados and 4 rhydons...
This is absolutely useless to try to talk to people and tell them not to use those pokemons as defenders. They are tired to be kicked out by cheaters. Or people that are playing with 1 friend in the other team to kick them out.

The CP formulas can be criticized but the first thing to change in the game is ban for Life the IP adresse of phones/computers that are not legit.
Then it will be nice to consider the gym system.

For the moment the gyms are supposed to be defended as a team but there is nothing that makes teamwork efficient.
-There is no chat/messenger tool.
-Everybody place 1 pokemon randomly without paying attention to the others' pokemon.
-this is always the same dudes training the gyms...

Well, in fact this is a game that wants people to play as a team with a "solo selfishmade" system.
This is not compatible...

This game is getting really old really fast. The Pokecoins are being way too much of a hassle. Are they even worth it? What's the best you could get out of it? Some more incubators? If you finished the dex what's the point?

Don't worry. Legendaries will be hard enough to obtain. You will have to register to the "legendary event", travel to one of a bunch of specific cities in the world (say Moscow, Paris, Tokyo, Boston and Rio de Janeiro), on an specific date, show your ID and registration to some event organizer, complete a quest during the event...and eventually you will get the legendary. That's the way Ingress "anomalies" used to work. It will not be the same for PoGo, but some type of meet-up event at specific locations through the globe is expected.
On the bright side: not the least chance of a legendary for bots and hacker accounts.

This would be a good way to do it. You have to physically be there to get one and even though this may mean I don't get one, I'd be ok with that.

Maybe for folks who can't attend these events, they should also have you do tons more things, say 1000 gym battles against mons with over 2000CP (can't bubblestrat), walk 100km in 7 days (block spoofers?), just throw near the kitchen sink in it to make it hard for cheats or bots to do it (physically register at a location to get a special key to attempt to get a legendary).

I think the game play is simply too "simple" really for them to do anything interesting in it's current form.

Gym battles are too easy and require no skill...Higher level attackers/players simply don't need to dodge (that's sorta how I do it now) since I value my time more than a few potions. I never run out of revives since I don't get 10 gyms which get knocked out daily so with my normal stop runs, can stay stocked with both.

I think we need more gameplay elements to make the game simply more "fun".

I agree with Trainer Tips that the game, in it's current form is pretty weak since after you've caught them all or mostly all (minus stuff that never spawn for you), you'd probably move on to other things.

Both my wife/kids are already pretty bored with it and have moved on to other more interesting mobile games.

My kids will just ignore catching near anything they have caught before so until Gen 2 is out, I think we'd all agree that Niantic will continue to lose users at a drip drip pace and this means losing revenue which ultimately, will make companies forced to offer more things.

Only hardcore players still continue to grind in hopes of getting in 10 gyms (me) or better/more gameplay elements in the future.

"Don't worry. Legendaries will be hard enough to obtain. You will have to register to the "legendary event", travel to one of a bunch of specific cities in the world (say Moscow, Paris, Tokyo, Boston and Rio de Janeiro), on an specific date, show your ID and registration to some event organizer, complete a quest during the event...and eventually you will get the legendary."

If they do this, then that's when I'll quit playing. It's simply not fair to limit such Pokemon to people who can find the time and money to make such a trip. You'll also have people who go to the event and then sell their accounts.

I feel the same way about regional exclusives. If they are not eventually released to all regions in some fashion, I will eventually quit playing.

I think Pokémon Go is dead already.

It's still a pretty lively corpse - currently 2nd highest grossing mobile game in the UK and 5th in the US:

https://thinkgaming.com/app-sales-data/device/all/country/us/date/2017-01-08/group/day/

Yes you get people who seem to join these sites purely to say how bad the game is, but it's still very popular.

The future of Pokemon GO dies of either spoofers or Niantic's stagnant updates.

My main issue with this game is that it's such a lonely game with so many users. I understand that there is potential for abuse? With a diverse # of players. Old pedos may find a way to abuse the system and communicate with young children. But they could do that via facebook? I want a way to communicate with the other players around me. Lol PvP would be the step in the correct direction. Imo

We need a move balance. Cross Chop needs to be stronger and others. Flareon, Cloyster and others health needs to be more because they die too quickly

Im pretty close to quitting and Im a level 35.4. The plan is to see how they release with Gen 2 before making a decision. The only reason why I play is cuz my GF plays and we exercise together playing PoGO.
Its just ridiculous that in this fitness app the strongest players dont walk at all or spend any money. Every game Ive played to date big cash spenders dominate. People on this site spend hundreds a month and are very weak compared to some cheaters and free players. Talk about a broken concept.
Ive read that if they tied gym entry to an altimeter reading then spoofers would not be able to fight in gyms anymore. Im hoping that Gen 2 release was delayed to fix things first but Im quickly losing faith in Niantic. In protest to the spoofers I havnt spent a dime since Halloween. The worst part is this game has so much potential too.

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