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Everything is effective against Exeggutor?

Finally got myself a good Exeggutor. One thing that I had completely missed is that almost everything is effective against it. Arcanine, Flareon, Charizard, Dragonite, Lapras, Snorlax (Lick), Nidoking, Nidoqueen, Gyarados,... (I know that Exeggutor has also some good match-ups.) Maybe this is something that should be considered when rating it? Sure, 9.5 seems fair if one does not consider type effectiveness things, but if one does, is it a 9.5 in your opinion?

Asked by Sarpal8 years 6 months ago

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Don't tell everyone, but Pidgeot can inflict decent damage to them. You certainly need to power them up as defenders.

Fire types are relatively rare as defending Pokémon because of their weakness to water, you wouldn't be attacking into Fire with Exeggutor anyway. Lapras does 1.25x damage against Exeggutor, but Solar Beam does also 1.25x damage against Lapras. Also, Exeggutor is a ridiculously strong attacker against Poliwrath (especially if it doesn't have Ice Punch).

Most defending Snorlaxes have Zen Headbutt around here where I live, making it deal 0.8x damage against Exeggutor so that match-up is also in Exeggutor's favor.

Exeggutor is also extremely strong against other water types and as water types are very common everywhere Exeggutor is a really nice addition to pretty much any attacking roster.

In my opinion, I don't think it's not overrated. It's actually one of my favorite Pokémon, also for defense. Not really a very accurate comparison, but my Exeggutors have easily most "Battles Won" (whatever it actually means). I think people always get surprised how hard it actually hits and missing just some dodges can be really fatal for your Pokémon especially if you don't have a good counter.

"battles won" means that someone went to battle that gym and their last pokemon fainted while battling that pokemon.

I know that very well, however, nobody has been able to raise the 'battles won' count with any kind of testing. People have tried to kill their last Pokémon on purpose but still it hasn't raised the count. So there are some limitations or restrictions to that and we still don't know what they are. That's what I was referring to.

I have had a brand new Pokemon, killed a level 3 with said Pokemon, put it in, said battles won:1

I assume you are talking about Exeggutor as defender, which I agree, doesn't deserve 9,5/10, no way. Exeggutor has only average defense, not exceptional stamina, many weakneses to common pokémon and elite attackers as well. Only positive is that Psychic moves are mostly unresisted (so he can't have Solar Beam nor Seed Bomb, to be at least noticeable defender).

Attacking Exeggutor is another story, 10/10 without aby doubts.

I agee, you are also forgetting Parasect and Scyther with bug moves (double damage to them, they melt him), and also Pidgeot with Wing Attack/Hurricane is a beast against him.

That's why I see the Exeggutor as a tremendous attacker (if he has Solar Beam or Psychic).

Even Venomoth which is weak against Psychic moves eats Exeggutors for breakfeast, if you dodge :-P

I think he deserves a 9.5/10 pretty easily.

On attack, Exeggutor is a dream come true. He has the third highest attack stat in the game (after Dragonite and Flareon) while offering a lot more than Flareon and not sacrificing much/anything compared to those that come close in attack.

On attack, any of his movesets are phenomenal. You can double down on the Psychic moves and use him to wreck Poison pokemon, etc... Or you can grab a grass special move and he's the best Water counter there is. Even with double Psychic moves an Exeggutor is really efficient at taking down significantly higher CP Vaporeons so I can only imagine how good one with Solar beam would be.

On defense, it really comes down more to moveset. I think Psychic is vastly superior as with double unresisted Psychic moves he can take down the common pokemon used to best him (Arcanine, Flareon, etc...). I don't have a decent Arcanine and assumed an Exeggutor would have double psychic in a gym I was attacking so opted to go after him with Lapras and he ended up having Solar beam, even dodging the Solar beam dealt a lot of damage. Sure, he's not beefy, but he's going to deal boatloads of damage to whoever attacks him if they're not perfect at dodging (and will still deal good damage even if they are). Add in the really high CP (like 5th in the game?) and he'll place well in gyms, so I think he's definitely a top-tier defender.

My rating would be:
Attack:
Optimal moveset: 10/10
Average moveset: 10/10
Worst moveset: 9.5/10

Defense:
Optimal moveset: 10/10
Average moveset: 9.5/10
Worst moveset: 8.5/10

Overall: 9.5/10
Especially since you choose whether to attack/defender and his movesets are almost opposite ranking in each spot.

I don't think they are overrated.
Their capabilities in attacking have already been stated, mut as defenders they are surprisingly annoying.
I just took down a lvl10 gym, and the two most irritating defenders by far were poliwrath and exeggutor.
I think that's mostly because
a) you can't water pokemons which are most common
b) psychic is hard to dodge and deals massive damage
c) psychic moves are very hard to resist

So even though many pokemon are effective against exe, pretty much none can crush it like lapras crushes dragonite or vaporeon crushes arcanine for example.
At least I'm used to beating opponents with super effective attackers and losing little hp myself, but against exeggutor that is surprisingly hard.

Even though effectiveness tables would indicate exeggutor is a lousy defender, that is not the case in real battles.

Talking about in real battles I agree with you. I find exeggutor with seed bomb one of the most annoying Pokemon to find against

Exeggutor on defense is just a weaker alternative to Slowbro.
Slobro has better defensive stats, same mostly unresisted Confusion+Psychic combo and what's the most important, better typing so Slowbro has little to no counters.

Exeggutor is fine because of its high CP for defending but is so weak.

Too vulnerable to many types to attack
Too slow attacks to crush gyms fast

I really like to find gyms with exes

Gyms stacked with Exeggutors are a pain to battle. They deserve their rating. Once they hit 2400ish range and have a good moveset they are very good defenders. 10/10 attackers as well, I always use mine for snorlaxes.

As someone said already, those that are powered up to 2400+ are beasts. They hit so hard and even when dodging you are taking a good deal of damage.

Psychic moves are tough to resist and Exeggutors are usually high up on the totem pole in gyms so you have to battle them multiple times. I agree that they are a pain, especially if you miss a few dodges.

As for offense they are machines and rip through gyms no problems.

I think they 100% deserve the rating they get.