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Entei moveset vs IV

Hi.
I have one 80% Entei ( 11/15/10 ) with Fire Spin and Overheat, and one 96% ( 15/13/15 ) with Fire Fang and Flamethrower. I plan to eventually Power up both, but which one should I start with? I don't fight in a whole bunch of Gyms, so it's for raid purposes.

Asked by Cryssarn6 years 6 months ago

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Unless you have a ton of rare candy and 7-digit stardust, I wouldn't power up a lower-IV legendary just because of a particular active moveset (legacy move is a whole different story). If you have the rare candy for that, you should also have the TM's necessary to change the other one to your desired moveset, don't you?

If you don't have the rare candy but the prospect of getting it with your raid activity is promising, then it's the same conclusion: you will likely receive enough TM's to eventually change the 96% one to FS/Ovh.

To be honest, don't bother with both. Entei is good but not I need two of this good, in the end it's just a bulky Flareon with more HP. If you haven't bothered yet it's not worth it.
Heatran is on the horizon, there is no legendary that is weak to fire anytime soon. You can even add Magmortar to the team.
Or Moltres with Overheat and Sky Attack are better options.

Fire is all I have to solo Jynx right now. But I get your point not to use rare candy. Which one would you use the entei candy I already have though?

As a veteran player, I can say I survived all this time without powering up a single Entei. For Jynx solos you have many more options depending on the boss moves. B/Cr Tyranitar, SB Mewtwo/Gengar and an army of Flareon or BB Charizard if you attended CD are currently more accessible candy-wise than Entei.

The only solo I did that required a full team of fire mons was Pinsir. That was an easy one because it was right after Blast Burn Charizard CD.

OK. Well for right now my counters for Jynx is:
2 Flareons
Blaziken
Charizard with overheat
Houndoom
Gengar
and Entei.

Unfortunately larvitar is rare where I live, and so is Mewtwo raid parties....so no Tyranitar or Mewtwo yet.

Interesting situation: contrary to mainstream position you may actually need to power up an Entei right now in order to be able to do Jynx solo raids. Sure, Heatran is coming and it might be better, but if you need to get your team better now for Jynx solos, it's a valid reason to power up an Entei. And even if it's outclassed, it will not become bad and can still be part of a fire squad along with other, maybe better pokémon. With this in mind, here are my suggestions:

* First, try to solo Jynx with your team, or do some simulations. I have no idea if your team is viable. If it is, this whole Entei point is irrelevant. In the following I will assume your team can't do it.
* You can't have a SB Mewtwo via raids any longer. Unless you have a visible opportunity for a trade, don't count on it.
* Can you get more Flareons? It might be enough. If not, go on to the next point.
* If it sounds ok for you, wait until October 21st: Beldum community day. It's likely that we will get several Metagrosses with a new steel attack making it better than Entei against Jynx. If not, go on to the next point.
* If you really want to do it now, have the Entei candy and stardust anyway - or if you simply like Entei and just *want* it to be one of your good fighters, I would join DHardrain by suggesting to TM your 96% Entei to Fire Spin/Overheat and power this one up. Flamethrower can have it's uses, particularly in gyms, due to its 2-bar nature. But since you explicitly said your goal is not gyms, the higher raw damage dealt by Overheat makes it preferable. Now, if you don't have enough TMs, it becomes more difficult. It's possibly a short term investment so it may not matter much, but still I would suggest to power up the 96% (which in addition has 15 atk IV) on the ground that even if it's not optimal now, you can still make it better when you get more TMs. If you power up the 80%, you can not make it better via TMs. In any case, don't power it up over lvl 30 before the arrival of Heatran, I think it would be a waste.

Good luck for Jynx solos!

WOW. Thank you so very much for that detailed, great response :) at least I have a plan now :)

You're welcome! Glad if it helps :)

I powered up an Entei with Flamethrower. It is not that much worse in shear damage output and the two-bar move allows it to fill a slightly different niche than Moltres with Overheat.

I haven't tried soloing Jynx, so check Pokebattler for more info on that. For raids in general, I want strong one-bar charge moves first while the boss has less energy, then multi-bar charge moves towards the end when the boss is almost dead. In raids that want fire attackers, I lead off with Moltres and Flareon with Overheat, then have Entei with Flamethrower and Charizard with Blast Burn pull up the rear.

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