Defender tier list is done, lets discuss on prestiger tier list.
We should make list based on defender tier list.
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They are all good, but if I can give alternatives to choose from...
Machamp > Snorlax as well as Blissey
Piloswine OR Cloyster > Dragonite
Tangela > Rhydon and Vape
Lanturn > Gyarados
Best all rounder goes to Wiggly
EDIT Kangaskhan is good against Snorlax, but that is not for everyone. (LowKick with anything)
What makes Dragonite a beast is the high attack with good moves. But when you are prestiging with low CP you arent taking advantage of that high attack as much. So for prestiging, I tend to value bulk/hp a little more. So for Snorlax really anything works, but I tend to use Vaperon, or sometimes Exeggutor.
As for Vaporeon, Jolteon does SE but has no resistance. As such I tend to use Grass Types. Eggy, Venus, and Tangela depending on CP.
You can also throw in Lanturn (who is also great for Gyrados) if you happen to get double electic
Here's what I think performs the best, based on my experience.
- Snorlax: Sudowoodo, Primeape, Kabutops, any of the Hitmons.
- Dragonite: Dewgong, Jynx, Wigglytuff, Azumarill, Clefable.
- Gyarados: Electrode, Magneton, Electabuzz, Raichu, Lanturn.
- Vaporeon: Tangela, Exeggutor, Ivysaur, Lanturn, Victreebel, Vileplume.
- Rhydon: Golduck, Vaporeon, Blastoise, Tangela, Exeggutor.
- Tyranitar: Poliwrath, Primeape, Vaporeon, Golduck, Blastoise, Azumarill, any of the Hitmons.
- Exeggutor: Parasect, Pinsir, Scyther, Butterfree, Ledian, Houndoom, Umbreon.
Best generalists: Wigglytuff, Vaporeon, Raticate, Pidgeot, Noctowl, Furret.
Edit: I left out Blissey because against her I have to use attackers with higher CP than my usual prestigers. Anything with really high DPS is good against her - I personally prefer Espeon, Alakazam or some Fighting types.
I keep a wide variety of prestigers at all CP ranges, so I always pick the ones with about half the defenders' CP. Dragonites and Rhydons in my area are usually 2800+.
To give you an example, the other day I wanted to take down a gym with a 3200 Dragonite with SW+DC on top, and didn't have potions for my trustworthy Ice attackers. So I picked my best Wigglytuff (1507 CP, Pound+Play Rough), and she was so impressive. She kicked the dragon's butt with even a fair chunk of HP left.
- Fight
Machamp C/DP or CC
Primeape C/CC
Poliwrath RS/DP - Ice
Piloswine PS/A
Cloyster FB/A
Lapras FB/IB or B - Electric
Lanturn CB/TB
Ampharos CB/ZC - Grass
Meganium VW or RL/SoB
Venusaur VW or RL/SoB
Bellossom RL/LB - Water
Lanturn WG/HP
Politoed B/HP
Poliwrath B/HP
That covers the big ones (Tyranitar, Dragonite, Snorlax, Rhydon, Gyarados, Blissey, Vaporeon). Can easily go for 1000 prestige against all, expect big Blisseys, with any of these prestigers taking advantage of weaknesses.
Honorable mention: Sudowoodo RT/RS
He's so fucking adorable. <3
Some of you are banking a little too much on HP, and not on dps; I get HP protects lower CP on prestiging, but dps gets them out of there faster so you don't compromise as much HP, and still get your 1k.
Lanturn w CB is just sobslow for me, Raichu and Jolty are faster. And Wiggly is great, but if Dragonite has SW, that's an issue, even w her high HP.
Maybe I'm just so used to playing around so many spoofers/snipers, I gotta get the gym up as soon as possible. It's that bad. ?
Understood.
Again, if you never played w spoofers attacking the gym every minute, then you may not understand. I need to get what I need, and get out, too much time spent will risk what I'm doing. I've battled in places w no spoofers, and the gym vibe and what you can do are different, in a good way.
It is really interesting how Starmie never gets featured in these lists. With WG/HP she is a powerful and potion efficient prestiger in particular against snorlax, whose zh she resists. One of the few mons with which i manage to single-handedly prestige 1000 points out of a snorlax. If you haven't tried her against snorlax yet, you really should. Prepare to be awed.
I'm all about potion efficiency when it comes to training so I tend to favor high attack/defense and low hp prestigers. P.S. Really surprised no one's mentioned Forettress. I use it all the time versus Snorlax/Espeon/Exeggutor/Alakazam
- Tangela (VW/PW)
- Forretress (BB/HS)
- Skarmory (SW/SA)
- Cloyster (FB/A)
- Starmie (WG/HP)
- Raichu (S/WC)
- Primeape (C/CC)
- Xatu (AS/FS)
- Sudowoodo (RT/SE)
- Marowak (MS/EQ)
- Ninetales (FS/OH)
