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finally got one with double ice moves but is ice shard/ aurora beam rate c in this site..
Better still try evolving?

charizard with fire spin/ overheat is great like flareon? I have both but want max the bad ass charizard

Asked by matast7 years 11 months ago
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ive got a maxed cloyster, trainer lv 39 with ice shard blizz and it's got 3 battles won. i dont even place in gyms often..

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I hate aurora beam. It takes a long time to fire and the damage is meh

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Aurora Beam is not great, but it will do OK if Shellders are rare for you.

As for the Charizard, it's a great moveset. Power it up.

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Aurora beam is like meh for cloyster, but shellders should be common now for the event. Just catch every one you see now.
As for Charizard, yes. Just as good as Flareon, and he burns those Exeggutor just as quick as Flareon in FuNKyShO's video.

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