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so I hatched a Tyrogue from egg today. Team Valor Appraisal said "Amazes, Defense, Blown away". And it came out two IV result. One is 84.4 and one is 95.6. So my question is how do I find out which one is right one for my Tyrogue?

Asked by TheMasterJayson8 years 2 months ago

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Does it say xl or xs or when you appraise does it say something along the lines that it's small or large?

Size is irrelevant for IV calculations.

How are you so sure on that? my theory behind that actually it is relevant imo is that if let's say you have a perfect attack iv and your Pokémon is xl that in my eyes means that the next highest iv is defense vice versa in this situation since he has a perfect defense iv and if it's xs that means his next highest iv would be stamina or attack. I've been doing it like that for awhile now and never had problems.

it is tiny size

Its hard to say in this situation since both attack and stamina iv's could be the same if it were 96% if it was the 84% one it would be attack or stamina. I could be wrong though. Maybe I just think in my head that the size is a hidden appraisal but when I look at it like that it makes sense.. In this situation I would evolve it then see what the iv is but that's your call regardless how you look at it, it would still have good iv's

There is no evidence that supports size having anything to do with IV's, CP, or HP. That is why none of the IV calculators ask you to input size--there is no use for this data. Equations that do not reference size in any way are able to adequately explain the relationships in the game.

If you have an equation for determining IV's with size as a variable, please share it.

Like I said, it's my opinion and maybe I'm wrong it would make more sense though if niantic did that seeing as there's nothing in the game that makes a Pokémons size necessary atm. Also I never said anything about cp or hp just iv's.

1H1, XS -> 11/12/15 (A/D/H)
Doesn't look like it holds true for all cases. I like the theory tho, I've never really got the point of mons having different random heights and weights.

Power it up once that should give you the right results if you merge them

yes, but I am trying to see if there is another way to know without using stardust because I am low in stardust right now and still have many other to power up -_-

blown away means defense is 15 so whichever of the combinations has that is likely the right one.

95.6 IV HP/ATK/DEF 14/14/15
84.4 IV HP/ATK/DEF 12/11/15

both defense are 15, that's why I don't know which one is the right one for it.

someone has probably answered below but these would result in clearly different CP's unless it was of very low level so would have to be inclusive of attack ranges from 12-14 (including 13) and defence ranges 11-14 ie 13/14/15,13/13/15 etc etc. so it is likely that these are for two different levels, which is a problem for stardust based calculations.

What is the CP and HP? Stardust should be 2500 since it was just hatched.

CP 215, HP 48, stardust 2500

84% and 96% are pretty big differences. There is one stat you might be overlooking in the possible values.

lv19 14s/14a/15d 95.6%
lv20 12s/11a/15d 84.4%

If your trainer level is 20 or higher, and you have been since before Gen2 release, then it is 84%.

Size is irrelevant, as stated earlier. The IV calculator on this site already takes into account all of the data from the in-game appraisal, so you will not gain any new information from eyeballing that. The problem is, since the game rounds numbers down, that there is literally more than one combination of IV's and levels that match up will all of the data available to you. There is no way to distinguish between these combinations, or the IV calculator could do it for you. You could try powering up the Tyrogue before evolving it to get additional information, but that can require multiple power-ups before you get a definitive answer. Using the CP calculator can help a little here because it can show what level the mon has to be before the CP diverges.

It's 84.4%. I used the IV calculator from this site to determine this.

It's the 84.4% one, assuming you are at least level 20. The other one would be level 19, which would not be possible from a hatched egg unless you are a level 19 trainer.

With the information contained in this site I saw that a level 20 tyrogue with 45/45 ivs would have 231 of cp, when comparing two tyrogues with such a difference of ivs the calculator should indicate that these had different levels, being a level 20 and the other with Lower level and this information could break the question, by chance the calculator does not point this out? It was the only thing that came to mind.