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Just got my second ever CTM from a T3 raid (my best TM source).
Options:

A/D/S
Dnite 14/15/15 - SW/HB - Would need FTM, I'd be fine with DT/H.

Gary 15/13/15 - B/OR - Would need FTM, WF/HP is the obvious end goal. B/C would be fine.

Golem 15/13/14 - RT/EQ - Hope for SE

I only have one of each, so I'm not on the brink of being able to solo any new raids, though weather might change that. So it's possible that waiting for new raid calculations could be the best option.

I'm thinking about Dnite because it would be a decent generalist, or Gary because B/C could make Zam raids a little easier.

Golem is replaceable in current T3 raids, but a meta relevant double rock would be nice to have.

I have no reasonable way of taking part in T4/5 raids, so this is just about T3 raids.
Golem would be the obvious pick for Ho-Oh, but has little use in T3.

Asked by Nick Cabbage7 years 8 months ago
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by hkn 7 years 8 months ago

Golem because RT/RB is also double-Rock and almost as good as RT/SE. Furthermore, it does not require a Fast TM to be useful.

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But double rock Golem is only a must vs T5 raids right now afaik.
I can easily solo Scyther, and I don't think Golem is going to be irreplaceable in T3 raids anytime soon.

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I believe hkn is saying that using a charged TM on golem is a good decision because you will end up with either rock blast or stone edge, both of which are great rock charged moves

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I know.
But I'd need to drive for a couple hours if I ever want to do T4/5 raids, which is not woth it to me personally.

And Golem isn't needed for T3 raids.

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Good candidates all, but I would do the Dragonite first--it is 98% and a guaranteed improvement

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Especially if you actively participate in raids (Ho-Oh)

Dragonite and gyarados I would wait for a Fast TM as well

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I caught and still have a 1982 Lugia--it is like a mint-condition Datsun...a classic

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Niiice is that a 10/10/10?

If I were you you I'd trade him that Lugia and just 2 ho-ohs for that dragonite

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Steel Wing is a good move, SW/OR and SW/Hur are perfectly usable. He can just use them as they are while waiting for a fast TM.

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by pipjay 7 years 8 months ago

All good candidates for charge TMs because all of the possible outcomes are better than what you have now.

Dragonite is probably the most universal and widely usable, but you will need a fast TM before it can really excel.

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HP...guessing u mean hb for hyper beam on the dnite? And idk what a qtm is that's not a relevant short form... your golem is a must tm because u want double rock moves on him doesn't matter which one at all . If the dnite has hb u will need tms for both moves , same with the Gary...and niether of those are garenteed moves

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About the abbvs, whatever he plays and raids solo. Real question though, I probably really cared about my first Golem...well, 12 Golems later. He's not going to get a better Dragonite. Gyarados happens but not an easy one either. Can walk a new Golem in 2 weeks

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Sorry for the confusion.
HP was meant to be HB and I was mistaken in thinking that the quick move TM is called fast move TM. Is FTM the correct term?

And I would go for Golem if I had a use for it.
But I can't really do T4/5 raids and Golem can be substituted in any current T3 raid.

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I would suggest waiting until you get a Fast TM, then use both on the Dragonite (unless Salamence is proven superior by then).

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Dragonite easily. If you were planning on doing a lot of Ho-Oh raids still, Golem might be better, but Dragonite is Dragonite and DT/H is the optimal moveset against Machamp so it will have a good use. Like you said, Golem isn't crucial for T3 raids, Scyther can be easily soloed without any.

Gary is a bad idea if that's your reasoning because B/C Gary does not make Alakazam raids easier, its DPS is insufficient for that. You're better off farming a bunch of high level Gengars and hoping to find a PC Alakazam.

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