Blissey defensive movesets finally rated
My question is if it says "Blissey does not really have a "bad" moveset. All Blissey movesets perform exceptionally well against the majority of attackers." then why is the worst moveset rated D? Shouldn't they all be A or B?
Also why is ZH better than lb for every charge move except Psy?
Answers
"Pound and Zen Headbutt perform similarly. Pound generates energy quicker and does a little more damage while Zen Headbutt has better type coverage."
I guess so? I thought ZH puts out more damage too.
But I'm still confused as to why they rate ZH better than lb for DG and HB, but lb better than ZH for Psy.
Your second question is to do with type coverage - ZH and Psychic are both Psychic type.
The point about 'no bad moveset' is more suggesting that Blissey is the strongest defender in the game regardless of moveset. If I got a Blissey (which I've accepted will take me several years!!) I would be quite disappointed to get Psychic. But she'd still kick butt in gyms.
Yeah, I have to thumb up all of these comments.
Psychic and Crunch should both be 50 energy charge moves with comparable damage and time with Flamethrower and Thunderbolt. Disappointing that Niantic messed up both of them.
The problem I guess with Crunch is there are so many strong dark type moves in the main series. Same issue we are seeing with moves like Heat Wave, Fire Blast, and Overheat. That overlap with Future Sight is another reason why Psychic should be a 50 energy move.
I'm in the same boat. I had hatched 3 Chansey's (2 during the recent event), and still decided to use all my candies to power one up over 2900. I figured that I wouldn't use her as an attacker anyway, and she is still a top defender even with a subpar moveset. I also didn't want to walk with her for another month.
You and me both...
Since evolving takes 49 candies, that's too pricey IMO to keep evolving them hoping for better movesets.
I think I've evolved 3 or 4 Alakazams and got the near bottom moves so far, but unlike Blissey, at least Blissey has decent CP to be in gyms so I just powered mine up and put her in gyms too.
Hopefully, the "save your candies" comment from that Niantic employee is about move rerolls since a lot of people, I'm sure have mons sitting on our benches due to non-optimal moves...
1 - The worst moveset is rated D because it compares movesets given the pokemon. i.e. The best moveset is considerably better than the worst moveset, however the comment is saying that a Blissey with the worst moveset is still a better defender than any other (non-Blissey) pokemon (Snorlax included).
The second question is type coverage. ZH covers Blissey's biggest weakness (fighting types) very well, so it's the preferred quick move even if Pound would have STAB. However with a Psychic charge move, it would make attackers like Espeon/Alakazam/Exeggutor be really good in to it, so Pound is the preferred quick move in this case.
I think you made the right assumptions here, but got the wrong conclusion. You stated that ZH is the prefered quick move because it has the better type coverage and eliminates the advantage of fighting types. True!
Now the next point is that if you would have a psychic charge move also, then psychics who attack into blissey would be pretty strong, especially if they don´t have psychic moves on their own (SoB Exeggutor). So for me th explanation is, that ideally you want ZH as your quick move to counter fighting types, but at th same time don´t want to get rsisted on both moves if someone chooses to attack with a psychic type, so Psychic is the worst choice of those charge moves.
DG is on top because it´s effective vs. fighting also, so that the attackset while not getting Stab in the end hits super effective vs. your biggest (and only) weakness...plus DG is also effective vs. Dragonite whom most of us use against maxed out Blisseys to tak them down in time.
Since Gamepress has been taking so long to update, I have been checking this website which apprears to just take the spreadsheet data and put it up in an awkward to navigate format.
http://www.pogomoves.com/check.php?lang=en&pkmn=Blissey&basic=Pound&charge=Dazzling+Gleam
Going by just straight damage output, not considdering type coverage or dodging, it places Pound/Dazzling Gleam as fourth on defense.
I've fought several Blissey variants. In my opinion, Psychic is better than Hyperbeam. As they say here, Psychic is the hardest to dodge. Hyperbeam is the easiest. Unless I'm caught generating my own Hyperbeam or Solar Beam, I can easily dodge all Blissey HB's. Psychic I've been hit a number of times, and it hurts pretty good.
Against Blissey, I tank all quick moves in order to kill her in time. ZH and Pound, I don't really care about in terms of damage. It's watching carefully for the charge move!
I also hope they turn Psychic back to two bar. It just doesn't make sense having it so similar to FS, but just that much weaker.
Personally, I have a level 33.5 91% Pound/Psychic Blissey, a level 30 71% Zen/Beam, and a new 91% P/DG that I got to level 32.5 before running out of stardust last night. Our area was extremely Chansey friendly during Valentines, so even after maxing this last one, I'll have enough candy left to max another hatch. Yes, yes, this is bragging, but come on, that is a fun part of the game!
