GamePress

It's the best defender and second best attacker in the whole game. Why Niantic doesn't nerf it?

Asked by UnzkiBoeZ7 years 8 months ago
Report

Answers

Lmao, Niantic already nerfed her, not her base stats but with the CP decay. Have you been living under a huge Golem?

Up
0
Down

And one per gym, and basically useless attacking raid bosses. I walked Chansey perhaps 100 candies, just have a machoke now and I don't track its progress (except when I catch a high level Eevee, buddy to evolve additional Espeons). At some point a Blissey could be used as a slow attacker in a local gym to save potions and to save effective attackers for raids, about it though

Up
0
Down

I think Niantic has Blissey's attack stat set too high, and I certainly think Gamepress has overinflated its rating. A 10? Really? Maybe in the previous meta, when it was all about defense and gyms being level 10 Blissey towers. (Yes, I'm glad those days are over at least.) But in the new Raid meta? Blissey is the last thing you'd want to use as an attacker.

I have no idea what formula Niantic uses or how (or if) it's based on the stats from the main games. But I have always assumed that the stats in Go were somewhat based on -- or at least influenced by -- actual Pokemon stats. In the main games, Blissey has an Atk of 10 and a Sp.Atk of 75. So what formula did Niantic use to come up with an Attack of 129 in Go? But let's say they did on purpose for some reason, and the 129 attack stat is here to stay. What about that makes Blissey a Tier 1 attacker next to Dragonite?

Up
0
Down

I do agree that Blissey shouldn't be ranked 10/10 anymore now, neither should she be ranked as tier 1 attacker now because of the nature of raids.

Blissey was ranked in tier 1 because she was the most 'powerful' attacker i.e. could sweep through the most defenders, as shown in one of FuNKyShO's videos where a Blissey lasted through more Dragonites than even a Lapras, despite the lack of double SE.
The Blissey lasted through about 3.5 Dragonites, while the Lapras lasted through about 2.8 Dragonites.

Up
0
Down

I hope and pray that Blissey gets buffed up a lot!
I worked hard for my 4 wonderful Blissey's, and now it's kinda useless with the current gym system where all is easy.
And on attack is slow and bad.

Up
0
Down

Niantic uses a formula based on the stats from the main game. It benefits some Pokemon much more than others. They don't nerf or buff Pokemon because they are "cool" or too strong. You can actually figure out the cp for all the pokemon in future generations.

https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/max-cp

Up
0
Down

I understand they have a formula that considers all stats when calculating overall CP. But what I'm curious about is how does Niantic arrive at the Attack stat specifically? I would assume they somehow apply a formula to the Atk and Sp.Atk stats from the main games, and no other stat (HP, Def, Sp.Def, or Spe) would affect the Attack stat specifically. Or maybe they do?

In comparing Blissey and Horsea, both with a Go Attack stat of 129, in the main games:

Blissey has Atk of 10 and Sp.Atk of 75.
Horsea has Atk of 40 and Sp.Atk of 70.

So how do they both have the same attack stat in Go? I'm genuinely curious.

Up
0
Down

I don't know their formula. You will have to Google that, or maybe ask on this site. Obviously Gamepress knows the formula.

Up
0
Down

So this explains why Lapras has a higher max CP than Cloyster despite having a lower attack stat AND a lower BST.

Up
0
Down

Blissey is not the second best attacker in the game...shes not an attacker at all! People who fight with her in a raid rely on others to do the work an shouldn't be rewarded at all for their decision to be potion-efficient....

Up
0
Down

Totally agree. It also doesn't help that the game seems to insist on preloading most raid attack squads with Blisseys. So I'm not sure if the other folks are doing it on purpose to be potion efficient (probably true in a lot of cases), or if they simply don't know what they're doing.

Up
0
Down

I'm considering leaving all my Blisseys and Chanseys fainted and not healed, just so that they won't sneak into my team for raids.

Up
0
Down

She is a great attacker into gyms in which time is not a factor. She is a horrible raid attacker.

Up
0
Down

These are the droids you're looking for...
https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/pokemon-stat-change

Up
0
Down

people who think Blissey is a good attacker is dumb.

2 people with 6 machamp each can beat a Level 4 raid tyranitar.

8 to 10 people with 6 Blissey each will struggle beating Level 4 raid tyranitar.

Up
0
Down

It has been mentioned a couple of times that Blissey is a good GYM attacker. How many Machamps faint compared to Blissey? Blissey can plow through 4 Pokemon without dodging. The problem comes when there is a time limit, which makes them worthless in raids.

Up
0
Down

I used to use her quite a bit. Not really anymore. She has no place in raids and most any old trash can take down gyms now. The whole thing is more potion efficient so she really lost that edge too.

So in summary the OP is talking about nerfing a mon with little real use on defense in most areas and no special use on offense except to waste your own time. In short a mon that really shouldn't be invested in at the time being. Nerf her? Lol

Up
0
Down

Yeah but she is only the 2nd best attacker when it comes to Gyms. She is useless in the raid department. But all that aside no Blissey is already easy enough to take down a nerf is not the answer. Also Blissey is the second best attacker because of what type of pokemon she is. So the only way to change that would be to make blissey a well... different pokemon.

Up
0
Down