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Who are the most useful and useless starters in the 1st three gens?
Fair to say blastoise is outclassed by everyone.

Asked by Elcholorodrigo6 years 8 months ago

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Meganium is as bad as Blastoise.

Based on stats, Meganium is marginally worse...ick!

Pikachu!

I believe it's Charizard in the main series duo to special attack and speed. I wouldn't know in Pokemon Go however

The Gen 2 Starters feel a class behind.

Right now, Blaziken, BB Charizard, Sceptile, and FP Venusaur are the most useful, after Pikachu in this season's latest haberdashery.

Things might change soon with the rebalances, but currently:

Grass: Venusaur>Sceptile>Meganium
Fire: Charizard>Blaziken>Typhlosion
Water: Swampert>Feraligatr>Blastoise
Overall most useful: Venusaur (top of its type, no legendary competition)
Overall most useless: Blastoise/Meganium

The gen 3 starters would be tied for the best overall if they had access to the community day moves.

It will be interesting to see what happens when shaymin comes out

Gotta call you out on one thing. Charizard and Typhlosion have exactly the same base values (stats before adding IVs). The only difference between them is their movesets, and of course Charizard's flying typing. When I was looking at Blast Burn Typhlosion, I saw it should perform identically to Charizard's, due to the same stats. Blaziken has slightly better attack, and slightly different defense (more HP, less Def).

Of course, if you rate Char over Typhlosion because of Blast Burn, sure, that makes sense.

And of course, all of this could change once they tweak the battle stats.

This is why I would *ultimately* rank Typhlosion above Charizard, due to the differing resistance profile. But until we get BB Typhlosion...

(My 15/15/14 level 30 wild caught Quilava is anxiously looking forward to November.)

I'd say Charizard's resistance profile is better out of the two. Flying type is advantageous against two of fire's targets and disadvantageous against one. It also turns weakness to ground into a resistance and Earthquake is a very common non-STAB coverage move.

Correct, which is why it's good to have a few of each :) BB Typhlosion will probably outclass Flar... oh wait, no it won't. I didn't realize the gap between Fire Spin and Ember was that large.

Yeah. Flareon was completely worthless until the gen 2 moveset shakeup gave it FS.

with stats being the same, then it comes down to moveset and assuming they both get Blast Burn, Charizard with Fire Spin beats Typhlosion with Ember in terms of attacking. Blaziken with BB could become fire dps champion but is quite fragile.

Charizard ranks above Typhlosion currently even without Blast Burn, because the fast move is better. Ember is mediocre, Fire Spin is excellent.

At least Blastoise was able to get aviator sunglasses for Squirtle CD, which earned it a handful of "cool" points. Meganium, on the other hand, had absolutely nothing good going for it. Even it's shiny coloration is boring. Thus, for me, Meganium ranks at the very bottom as far as starters go.