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Best damagers for zapdos?

Hi, so I was just wondering for extremely large raid groups where all you want is damage, is golem still the best option or would you want something like jynx / piloswine / etc? I see that golem is a superior counter while jynx is a glass counter, so does jynx have higher damage output if I only go through half my party cause there's so many people in the raid?

Can someone show me a number analysis on this and help me maximize my damage? Thank you

Asked by pkgoplayer18 years 3 months ago
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by JHVS 8 years 3 months ago

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Thats at lebel 35. Higher levels and Golem performance furter departs from the rest :).

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I kind of want to power up my 93% L20 Jynx with that move set, just in case I'm ever trying to three-man it and need a glass canon opening salvo.

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First off, you would have to use cheats to know the moveset before hand since it will only be better (and by a super slim margin, it's almost nothing) one third of the time. I have doubts this mon being added even for the right moveset could save you. By my math it is roughly 1.25% faster than Golem. You are seeing cumulative stats for an entire fight with the same mon.

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You're probably right in general, but… trying to three-man against Moltres, I ended up timing out with only a sliver left, so a tiny bit can make a difference. Also, on my last Zapdos raid, the game auto selected 6 dr Golems for me, so if I'm going to lose my first 6 and have to go back in, it helps if I leave some Golems so I don't have to select new Mon before jumping back in.

Plus you'll know the move set if you lose the first time so you don't really have to cheat.

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If you want to, then do it. It's a game, and is meant to be fun, not about math. And Jynx is certainly useful against Dragonite, who will likely eventually be a raid boss.

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by JHVS 8 years 3 months ago

Basically, there is a small theoretical window where Jynx can face the TB charge and barely outperform Golem. So you can run a Fb/A Jynx however I'm not sure even in the size of the group you would need to be in to not die.

To put it flatly, nothing guarantees more success in this setting than Rt/Se Golem according to sims.

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6 dr golems

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Only if you trio or 4 man the bird. Otherwise from 3-5 depending on Golem levels.

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was in a raid with 12 noobs. i was the only one with golems. we (i) beat zap with 30 seconds to spare. my fingers were exhausted and famished to say the least

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by JHVS 8 years 3 months ago

So to add to my statement above OP, since as I understand it (someone please correct me if I am wrong) the damage balls are awarded for the amont of total damage you do on a percentage of the opponents total health. I don't see Jynx outperforming Golem enough in that one moveset to really justify a certain amount of expenditure. I suspect in very high trainer group numbers you will not see any extra balls. And at best you would see one more in 1/3rd of your fights? And I honestly believe that one more will not happen.

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I agree. I always advice splitting in 2, blue and the rest usually(they are more). And most of the tome works. Even for Lugia, but no one wants less than 10 there :).

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