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Are More-Evolved Pokémon with Same CP Equal to or Better Than Less-Evolved?

I like to keep a collection of lower CP Pokémon with particular move sets around for training at gyms, using type advantages to keep my group CP just below (or just below half) of those I train against. Unfortunately, my collection is getting big enough that I need to start thinning it out, and I think knowing this might help me as I do:

Will differently-evolved Pokémon with the same CP, same typing, and same move sets be roughly equal in battle strength.. or not? For example, would a 800 CP Victreebel with Acid/Sludge Bomb be any better than a 800 CP Weepinbell or a 800 CP Bellsprout with Acid/Sludge Bomb?

If they're not roughly equal, is there any (reasonably straightforward) mathematical way I could determine how much better a more highly evolved Pokémon would be (perhaps using the stats available on this site)? After all, even if an 800 Victre is better than an 800 Weepin, an 80 Victre certainly wouldn't be. Would a 600 Victre be? Or a 500?..

I'd also welcome any other suggestions on how to thin out a Pokémon collection while maintaining a varied, high-quality training lineup.

Asked by haltsy8 years 4 months ago
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Good question.
But You can use 500 1000 1500 and 2000cp wigglytuff. Pound/HB for all training fight ;-)

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I love the idea, but all 4 of my Wigglys so far have gotten D-grade Dark/Fairy move sets

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All is not lost.
Put feint/playR in defMode ;-)
I like this move set (for me is the best)

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by Arak2 8 years 4 months ago

800 CP Weepingbell should be same as 800 CP Victreybell.

The difference would be the Weepingbell is level 15 lets say and the Victorybell is level 12 because of it's higher base stats.

Same way you can look at IVs. A high IV pokemon could be 1-3 levels of powerup ahead of a low IV one.

But in the sense your talking about it dont matter.

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https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/damage-mechanics

just have two similar cp pokemon and know their levels (so you know their cpm) and then you can figure out their attack values.

what you're trying to figure out is whether levels matter more than base stats. it would probably depend on pokemon species as they all have different base stats, and IV distribution can affect CP.

for example a lv 10 victreebel might have similar cp to a lv 15 weepinbell, but which does more damage, weepinbells 190 base attack x lv 15 CPM or victreebels 222 base attack x lv 10 CPM.

idk if a lv 10 victreebel actually has similar cp to a lv 15 weepinbell though, that was just a random example.

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Great, thanks - if my one data point calculated so far is representative, it looks like they are going to be roughly equal after all.

Using those formulas, I find that the Attack/Defense/HP of my CP 977 Gengar is 120/93/71 and that of my CP 981 Haunter is 130/85/67.

Since my phone is too slow/unreliable for effective dodging, Defense/HP is valuable to me and these two Pokémon are roughly equal. I suppose I'll keep the less-evolved Pokémon in such scenarios - in case I ever want to evolve them.

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Second data point is similar:
CP 792 Bellsprout is 116/62/75
CP 787 Victreebel is 105/74/77

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