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Is Arcanine all that relevant anymore? It doesn't have a good matchup against the large majority of the Big 7, and Exegguttor has been rapidly vanishing from the gym landscape as far as I can tell.

Additionally, is it any use on defense? I looked at the analysis page, but it seemed a tad vague beyond the obvious "It's eaten alive by Vape and Rhydon". The reason I'm wondering is I have a 73% Arcanine that's currently 1637 CP, and I'm trying to determine if I should power it up.

IVs are 12 HP / 10 Atk / 11 Def, and it has the moves Snarl and Wild Charge (best defense moveset).

I was advised by others to wait and see how it seems after the gym battle system updates, but I'm just double-checking with others here.

Asked by Blackdrakon307 years 10 months ago
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Depends on your area, but Growlithes are insanely common in the desert and 73% is very low IVs for most...so I'd say don't power up...Also, if something is very rare for you, I'd say doubly don't power up since you are wasting your hard to get candies...on a non-ideal mon.

I don't have a Gyarados yet (level 35+) and never evolved a Machamp till gen 2 due to hard to get candies...

I also believe moves and move power can change so investing in non-stab is a bit risky. Wild Charge hits hard and maybe useful for PvP, but I play for the now mostly...and don't care for PvP honestly.

Overall, powering up for CP and defense depends on gyms and CP in your area, but Arcanine can't get nowhere near enough now for me and many folks I'd guess. Vaporeon's are actually very rare in gyms as well now, esp for stagnant gyms.

The only way to use those is to be much much higher level than people around you (I'd guess 3-4 levels is enough) and you can use these other mons. This is hard since you'd be pushing level 38+.

Some stagnant gyms are also starting to be T-rex/Dnite gyms now.

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First off what level are you? I'm thinking you should wait and save your dust and candies... having said that....

I have a 2686 Arcanine with FF/FT that I still put in gyms. He hits quite hard and FT can come quickly and get people off guard as they aren't used to fighting against it. But it does sit lower in gyms and risks getting shaved off.

But I really like him and will keep putting him in gyms when I can.

It all depends on your gym scene. My Arcanine is 96% with 15atk. Yours will be significantly less being 73% when powered up. I would wait to see what happens with the gym scene/change before spending candies and dust on one. You may even find a better one to power up by then.

My biggest regret is spending dust on mons I never use anymore...

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As information for all responers, right now I'm Level 31, nearing Level 32. Growlithe isn't particularly common in my area and I have 74 candies currently.

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i still use Arcanine, to help others get in the gym! LOL Rest of my friends use 1100 Vaporean to prestige the gym with 2200 Arcanine at the bottom.

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I have a high CP (2300+) Ember/Heatwave Flareon for this too (worst moveset: C attack, D defend)...

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Arcanin is a fun defender if he has S/WC I know because I have actually lost to that set using a vape.

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I have a 96% S/WC Arcanine sitting at 1900CP and if gym changes are made that make them a bit more viable I plan to power him up. Can max him out at nearly 2700CP. Can catch those attacking Vapes off guard.

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Only thing that prevents me from maxing mine is that Rhydons will completely smash it.

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I don't worry too much about counters. Every mon has a counter. I can smash 3300CP+ Dragonites with a 1200 Dewgong.

3100CP Rhydons get smashed by Vapes and everyone has a good Vape.

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I think Fire Fang/Wild Charge > Snarl/Wild Charge defensively

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