Is anyone else convinced Vaporeon with Water Pulse sucks?

The reason water pulse is rated so high for defending is because it can activate 4 times and charges fast and vaporeon will literally use it against u multiple times during a battle making you lose dps. Hydro pump sucks because it only charges once and is the easiest thing to dodge.

It's still good in distracting attakers. If a casual player is bad at dodging, he may not know that Water Pulse has lower DPS than Water Gun, haha.

Aqua tail is probably the best all round move, with water pulse the better defensive move and Hydro pump the better attack move.

I agree. I don't bother dodging water pulse and hydro pump is easy to time because I do it so much. Depending on the attacker and the damage they inflict, aqua tail can actually fire off 3 times in 4 attacks (after Jolteon uses thunder for example) and dodging all of them is really tricky if you plan on doing damage to them.

From your reaction, guessing you got Vape with Aqua Tail. Don't worry, it's the best universal move set. Hydro Pump is the best for attacking whilst Water Pulse is the best for defending. But if I had only one single Vaporeon, I would be completely happy with Aqua Tail.

Water Pulse does more damage in defense than Aquatail and Hydropump even if attacker doesnt dodge anything. The reason is that it is fast to charge and Vap use it often, so uses less watergun which is a bad defensive attack.

Moreover Hydropump is very easy to dodge while even if waterpulse can be dodged as well, most people wont bother dodging it since it makes quite low damages everytime like body slam for Snorlax.

So waterpuls is by far best defensive moveset for Vap
Aquatail is ok.

WaterPulse>Aquatail>>>Hydropump.

Vaporeon is not very stron defensive pokemon againslt lvl30+ attackers since it only has watter attacks. It gets destroyed by plants or dragonite. Plus watergun is terrible on defense BUT High CP and HP makes him usefull. He will do a very good job against lower lvl trainer that doesnt have dragonite or good plant yet. And you are always wellplaced in a gym with 2400CP+

I am only convinced that you don't understand how the game works. Water Pulse is easily the best defensive move for Vaporeon. Aqua Tail I think is the worst move for Vaporeon as its only slightly higher damage on defense than Hydro Pump but it's a lot easier to dodge. Water Pulse is semi-easy to dodge but does a lot more damage than the other two.

"there is really no point in even dodging Water Pulse cuz it's basically a strong quick move."

This just proves that you don't understand how the game works. EVEN IF you were to dodge every Water Pulse, it would still do more damage than a dodged Hydro Pump. And especially if you say it's not worth dodging, it would do a ton of damage to you, and more damage than undodged Hydro Pump would do.

But basically you are saying that Hydro Pump is worth dodging and Water Pulse isn't, which makes a ridiculous difference in damage between the two. The same applies to Aqua Tail.

Water Pulse > Aqua Tail = Hydro Pump

Not sure that the "AI" uses Water Pulse as effectively it could be used. Personally I don't like battling against Hydro Pump thanks to lag or something, it sometimes (rarely) hit w/o warning / animation / w/e and it makes me feel cheated. Same happens with other charge attacks as well, but taking in one WP is nothing where HP is quite a big hit.

I just wish vaporeons weren't a thing. Everyone has an army of them. Pretty sure they were supposed to be rare.

the truth is, atm any pokemon with water gun is not going to be a good defender