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I am lvl 29. I have a lvl 20, 100% iv RT/SE Golem so I was wondering if I should power him up all the way as a Dragonite counter because my only good ice type is a 1453 Dewgong(with low ivs).

Asked by Mike13448 years 1 month ago
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Yes, I have the same pokemon maxed at lev 37.5
it's pure awesomeness

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by hkn 8 years 1 month ago

No Wigglytuff with Pound/PR? No Clefable with DG or MB? No Gyarados with DT/OR? No Slowbro with Conf/IB?

Although Ice types are rare in my area, I managed to hatch Cloyster and Jynx with double-ice moveset, then walked them 150km in total.

How many stardust and Geodude candy do you have?

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Cloyster, Jynx and Gyarados outperform Golem but Wiggly/Clefable don't and Slowbro definitely doesn't.

https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/besting-big-7-defenders

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Interesting. Does it depend on whether the Dragonite has SW or DT/DB? Of course, fairies struggle against SW (as DT/DB are NVE against them) but against Cloyster, Jynx or Golem, that SW is SE only makes up for lack of STAB. Cloyster and Jynx are preying on a double-weakness (with STAB), but Golem is only preying on a single-weakness (though also with STAB). In contrast, SW is NVE against Gyarados (which can thus get away with SE non-STAB dragon moves) and Slowbro (STAB quick move and double-SE non-STAB charge move).

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Yes it depends, it assumes ideal moveset on the chart.

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but against Cloyster, Jynx or Golem, that SW is SE only makes up for lack of STAB.

SW is not super effective versus Cloyster. Cloyster is a Water and Ice type Pokemon, and Water resists Steel, making SW neutral versus Cloyster.

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Stardust is low but I have been farming like 4-7k a day and geodude is like pidgey where i live

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Sure seems like an alright counter, he outperforms Clefable and other fairy types.

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Dewgongs can easily take out dragonites twice their cp

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by DrAzzy 8 years 1 month ago

So you've got no Piloswines? No Cloysters? Not even any Jynxes? Or your own Dragonite?

RT/SE golem is okay, but it's only singly super effective, while Ice is double-super-effective. If you look at the chart in the Besting the Big 7 article, you can see where Golem stands - inferior to cloyster/swine/jynx/lap/dragonite, it's a third-rate dragonite counter...

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Golem is very good and you can use it for gyarados as well (it's toast if it has Hydro pump but it's better than jolteon as a gyarados counter otherwise)

However, as many others have mentioned, there should be a wealth of other options to use against dnite. I will eventually use my golem, but not until my entire jynx, cloyster and piloswine army all die from taking out dragonites.

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by Mandos 8 years 1 month ago

Hell yeah! That may not be the best Dragonite counter, but it's also good against Gyarados so you can use against both in sequence.
That's the only strong rock type Pokemon with rock type moves. My 100% Golem has MS/E, so it's gonna remain in level 20 forever. I've evolved an caught over 15 Golem, none with RT/SE...

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How is Golem good against Gyarados?

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It's perfect.

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This Pokémon will rip apart the legendary birds when they are released.

Plus Ho-Oh, and other flying and either bug/fire types such as charizard, butterfree, scyther, ledian (lol), etc.

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by aSp 8 years 1 month ago

I like the moveset, and can be useful when confronted by a gym rich with Gyarados too.

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DO IT. JUST DO IT! MAKE YOUR DREAMS COME TRUE

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