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Blastoise Defender Moveset

Hello guys I have just got my third Blastoise and it has Bite and IceBeam (the second has WG&IB, the third is just IV under 50%). Hoping for a recommended A_ranked moveset I'm getting a bit frustrated and made my thoughts about it, so heres the Question.

I'm looking for a defender blastoise. Recommend on this site as A_ranked is Water Gun (WG) & Flash Cannon (FC).
I think that Bite and IceBeam(IB) is a better moveset cause of type advantage.
Who attacks a water pkm with a water pkm?
That's the point.

With Bite I cover psycho pkm like Exeggutor, Slowbro and Hypno which are very common here.

With IceBeam I cover dragon & grass types like Dragonite, Vileplume, Victreebel, Venusaur and AGAIN Exeggutor!

So again water pkm won't attack my Blastoise and very popular attacker(Exeggutor, Dragonite) are countered by my Bite & IB moveset.

I see why FlashCannon is a good defender move but I dont see why IB is a bad one and I definitely dont see why WG is better than Bite.

Is it a good idea to power him up with this moves?
(IV is 93 and candys or stardust are no problem for me)

You guys may help me out here plz!
(sorry for english mistakes)

Asked by Pipboy8 years 5 months ago

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As for the movesets, I think water gun is ranked higher than bite because it benefits from STAB bonuses, and thus provides a higher DPS than bite. Same thing with ice cannon: it's ranked low because it outputs significantly less DPS than Blastoise's water secondary.

That said, you're right that bite/ice beam can be very useful depending on the situation. The problem is that a bite/ice beam Blastoise will probably not be as good as an actual ice-type pokemon with ice attacks. I would say if you need a counter for grass, psychic, and dragon pokemon, and you have no better options, then level up this Blastoise. If you have a Lapras with ice attacks, then I would prioritize powering up the Lapras first.

Thanks for your reply. I don't have a Lapras.

It's also not like I'm looking for a counter out of any pkm. I'm looking for the perfekt defender moveset for Blastoise just for my collection.

STAB makes WG do a bit more dps ok I see that but getting attackt by a grass, water the STAB bonus is useless.

For example getting attacked by slowbro (water/psycho) Blastoise watergun hast 1.25 Stab bonus and 0.8 type disadvantage which is around x1.05 times the Watergun dmg. Using Bite without stab x1 and with type advantage against psycho x1.25 Bite should provide more dmg or not?

Same goes for IceBeam in other matchups

Bite is the better defending quick attack only against certain few pokemon that are weak to dark and resist water. In all other cases WG should be at least equal or better. It's not a huge difference either way tbh.

I think the choice between flash cannon and ice beam as charge move is mostly personal preference based on common attackers people have in your area. I'd assume it's very likely your Blastoise will be facing off vs grass types and Dragonites fairly often which would make ice beam a good choice despite it's lower dps.

Yes, that is correct. The problem is that the optimal DPS listed on this website assumes there are no type advantages or disadvantages at work. That's where real-world mechanics come into play and affect a pokemon's ACTUAL DPS: you're right that very few people would attack into Blastoise with water-types (though I sometimes will power through water-types with my very high level Vaporeon).

Ultimately, I think you're right: in this case you should ignore the "optimal" movesets and ratings listed on the website and keep this Blastoise. Just remember that he has atypical moves - he probably wouldn't be the best choice to take down an Arcanine if you ever attack with him, for example!

The short answer is yes, that's a good moveset to defend because of the reasons you stated. Still I wouldn't power him up because at the end of the day, Blastoise doesn't get as high CP as other mons, and CP es most important for defense because it means you get to be higher in the gym and therefor, stay in the gym longer.

I'd go with him as an attacker like my post here bro!! :-) :-) he doesn't really have high cp like the other pokemons you got.. I'm a level 29 trainer and maxed my pokemon at 2112 blastoise, as you can see he is very low on cp and if you put him in a gym he will probably be ranked 1st - 3rd floors on the gym.. if the gym is highly contested you are going to be defeated really fast.. better to have a def vaporeon coz it deters attackers because its a high stamina high cp pokemon.. just my thoughts thou, you can decide for that!! Good luck!!

Save your stardust for better pokemon. Blastoise is a weak gym defender and an A rated moveset for Blastoise is not a good defensive moveset in general just the best available for Blastoise.