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Gamepress doesn't think that Gengar is a Mewtwo counter? HOW? IF GENGAR SURVIVES SEVERAL CONFUSIONS IT WILL BE THE TOP DPS.

Asked by 333-blue7 years 2 months ago
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From what I understand, Gengar only shines as a Mewtwo counter under two very specific circumstances.
- Mewtwo has psycho cut/focus blast
- Gengar has shadow claw (legacy)

If both criteria are met, then Gengar is pretty good as a glass cannon against Mewtwo, but only then. Mewtwo's other movesets knock Gengar out way too fast (Confusion alone tears it to pieces), and the DPS from Gengar's current two fast moves tends to be fairly mediocre. So given these limitations, that's probably why it's not recognized as a top counter.

Edit: ok, I just looked at the Mewtwo Raid Counter list, and I have to say, I'm surprised to see that mons like Umbreon (lower attack stat than Blissey) Sharpedo (nonexistent bulk) are included on the list while Gengar is not.

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Hehe, I think I edited my message right as you replied. I'm also stumped.

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Psycho Cut/Hyper Beam is fine too.
Gengar with Hex still has better DPS than Tyranitar.

Additionally, at high enough level with good IVs, it also becomes a worthwhile glass cannon against C/FB and C/HB. Launching two Shadow Balls is enough TDO, to the point that Gengar is #2 overall counter on pokebattler.

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I took two legacy gengars (max 93 and 98%) against conf fb and they did reasonable damage before going down the next four were ttars and didn't last that much longer. My second team was 3 ttars and 3 dragonites and the dragonites actually impressed me most in this raid.

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It wouldn't survive but a few confusions. Ideally Gengar should survive until a charged move? Why bother when Ttar can unload a lot more Crunch-a-tizing before dying to a Focus Blast, or not-dying to anything else.

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The boss will have full energy after 3 Confusions if it started from 0 when Gengar came in. If the boss uses FB after 3 Confusions, Gengar is a clear winner between it and Tyranitar. Not sure if Tyranitar pulls ahead if the boss delays it by 1 Confusion, need to do the math.

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I dont care it if not in the list, every Psycho Cut Mewto will meet my SC/SB Gengar first if i get another EX Raid pass..

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