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What T3 raid could I deal with using these mons?

I am level 30, and this is the list of my strongest mons.

Rhydon 2900 MS/EQ (100%)
Rhydon 2886 RS/EQ
Exeggutor 2562 ES/SOB (100%)
Machamp 2524 C/DP
Typhlosion 2354 E/OH
Kingler 2316 B/WP
Alakazam 2177 C/FB (not maxed, 82%, 15 Atk, not really worth the TM I have)
Kabutops 2155 MS/AP
Dragonite 2138 DT/H (not maxed, 96%, Atk = 15)
Cloyster 2136 FB/A
Houndoom 1920 FF/FB (not maxed, HP & Def = 15)
Gyarados 1867 B/O (not maxed but 98%, still not worth the only TM I have)
Houndoom 1776 S/C (not maxed, HP = 15)
Jolteon 1545 VS/DC (not maxed, Atk = 15)
Electabuzz 1251 TS/TB (98%, not maxed, HP and Atk = 15)
Golem 1234 RT/EQ (89-91%, not maxed, has max HP only)
Gengar 1483 H/SB (93%, not maxed, max HP and Atk)
I also have a Vileplume with A/SOB and 2 high IV Meganiums with SOB but with vine whip and razor leaf.

So, aside from powering up my dragonite, what else should I power up and for what raid could they be used?

Asked by Detonatress7 years 8 months ago
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Detonatress - If by "deal with" you mean to be able to beat a tier 3 raid boss by yourself (a "solo"), I think the answer is that you are a long way from soloing any tier 3 raid boss. I am level 36. I have an army of many pokemons with stats much higher than yours, and I have soloed 1 raid boss out of 16. It is a hard but worthy task. All I can say is that the first 4 pokemons on your list are a decent start, with the Exeggutor and Machamp being the best. Your Rhydons are good Rhydons, but they are Rhydons. Though great in gym battles, in raids, where the clock is king, they don't dish out their damage fast enough. At least that is my experience.

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Agree he has a good generalist selection but solo t3 requires 5-6 mons with good dps and overlapping coverage.

can I suggest to the OP 2 tools.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/6k6pob/soloing_tier_3_raids_using_only_level_30_pokemon/

and

https://www.pokebattler.com/raids

create an account then enter your best mons into the pokebox

look at your sim outcomes and bear in mind that you have to allow 10-20 seconds for lag so in real life you need a time to win of about 165 seconds or less to have a realistic chance of success.

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Thank you, I already used pokebattler but did not know I needed to register to use anything but the same mon x 6 in a sim.

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I've added some to Pokebox, but for some reason it still will not allow me to set up a team and clones the first pokemon to the rest of the 5 slots. What should I do?

I mean about this that shows how much HP the raid boss has:
https://www.pokebattler.com/fights/users/11937/pokemon/268472/defenders/ARCANINE/quickMoves/FIRE_FANG_FAST/cinMoves/FIRE_BLAST/cp/17832/strategies/CINEMATIC_ATTACK_WHEN_POSSIBLE/DEFENSE?includeDetails=true
Not the one that shows the team and whether they die or not.

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I think the closest boss you are to soloing is Machamp, since it's one of, if not the easiest level 3 raids to do.

You've got 3 decent counters and also the fact that one of Machamp's counters, Espeon, is easy to acquire makes you much closer to soloing it than other bosses.

You've got the Exeggutor with E/Solar, Dragonite with DT/H and a Gengar with the best non-legacy moveset H/SH, and you could fill in the last 3 slots with Espeons, just evolve literally any high level Eevee that you find in the wild regardless of IVs, and it'll be great, even the worst moveset on Espeon is still able to get Machamp done in time.

Exeggutor reaches 15 damage for Extrasensory at level 29.5 and doesn't reach 16 until 37.5 so keep it as is, it doesn't need to be powered further.

Obviously it's your dust and you can do what you want with it, but if your stardust is tight and you're being efficient with your resources in order to be able to solo a Machamp as soon as you can, your dust is better spent on your other 5 Pokemon that'll be battling.

Dragonite's Dragon Tail is actually the same, 15 damage at 29.5. Yours is currently level 21, going to 29.5 will cost 65k dust and 58 candies.

Gengar with Hex reaches 10 damage at level 28, though with 12 defence, Counter does 5 damage at level 28 and 4 damage at 28.5. If you do take the Gengar that far then you've already crossed the lowest damage breakpoint for Bullet Punch.

That being said you don't have to level up the Gengar, timing with Hex and Shadow Ball is usually in the 170s so it's not a Pokemon that is absolutely necessary to invest in for Machamp raids when it's not always that useful (against steel movesets), and simulations also don't account for lag or the dodge glitch, connection issues et cetera.

It might be the case that you find and walk 4 high level Eevees before you get the dust + candies to power up this Gengar, so you could just run with 4 Espeons, Exeggutor and Dragonite.

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I was pretty close to soloing Arcanine but I had a much weaker team back then. It was in the red area of the HP. Last time I've tried Machamp, he never even reached into yellow area, but I didn't have a Dragonite back then and most of my team was lower level.
I don't have SH on the Gengar, it's SB, a poison move.
I don't evolve just any eevee though as I want one worthy of powering up and eevees are difficult to find here, and usually they're too small level to even be worth the power up. Maybe if one hatches, that could be useful.
Is that Alakazam of any use? If not, I hope the nest nearby turns into an Abra nest.

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What's your Vaporeon count? You've not listed any but surely everyone has a couple of Vaporeons.

Rhydon is actually quite slow against Arcanine. You'd think it'd be good when both it's moves are super effective but even it's best moveset, Mud Slap and Stone Edge barely does it, expected time is around 173-175s, yet Pokemon like Tyranitar who only have 1 super effective move still get it done faster.

Golem's great if it has Rock Throw, the issue is Mud Slap is a slow move, hence why I think Rhydon is crap. It's DPS isn't amazing and it's energy gain is awful. Rock Throw doesn't have good energy gain either but it's DPS is one of the highest for quick moves to make up for it.

Water Gun's DPS isn't the best, still, but has high energy gain to make up for it, plus having higher HP allows it to turn more HP into energy, hence why Vaporeon is basically the best Arcanine counter even against Wild Charge.

If you want to solo Arcanine just work towards 6 Vaporeons if you don't have them already. You'd only need to dodge a few Wild Charges, otherwise you can just spam tap your screen.

Back to Machamp, Even investing into H/SH is kind of a stretch. I have my Gengar with H/SH and it works but I think it's my other Pokemon carrying it. As in it's good enough to get the job done but there are still better options.

H/SL is slightly worse than H/SH, but close in effectiveness. Theoretically Gengar has about a 175s time to kill against Machamp but you're not going to be using 6 Gengars, so this time is not a big deal if your team is mostly psychics that bring the expected time down to around 160.

That being said I would hold onto powering the Gengar as a last resort, because you don't want to power up the Gengar only to find out that it's still not good enough - maybe because of lag or dodge glitches, or maybe you get lucky and you're able to find high level Eevees quite quickly that you could get 4 Espeons sooner than you get the dust to power up the Gengar.

Alakazam is great but I think I would prefer to have Psycho Cut, the dodgability is what gives it an edge over Espeon, and Focus Blast isn't something you'd want against Machamp. Seems like you're low on TMs so I wouldn't TM an Alakazam when I could walk an Espeon and guarantee a double psychic moveset, or just find an extra person to duo an Alakazam raid.

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I have no Vaporeon. Still have not found a good enough eevee, and i'm not wasting the candy on randomly evolving since the nests rarely appear and are not close to my house. My Golem has Rock Throw and Earthquake. According to pokebattler, my current team can't solo anything yet, so I'll either have to wait until I reach maybe lvl 36, or hope I can find better stat and moveset mons.

Also, I want to try and do the raids in a rather weird way, because I do not keep multiple of the same mon unless they're different in forms in some way. So at that point I'll probably only solo Machamp and maybe Gengar some day. Apparently 6 xatus can solo Machamp. I have a 100% one but it's not yet high level.

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Xatus can solo a Machamp but they'd have to be really high level, not really worth investing in. Even stuff that only does neutral damage with STAB can be better like a Moltres, plus is more survivable, since it single resists both fighting and steel.

Xatu double resists fighting but that just makes it comparable to other counters with single resistances, rather than make it extremely tanky like a Lugia.

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The Zam can definitely help if you TM it to FS and maybe power up a bit. But you still need another 2-3 alakazams or Espeon. Try looking for an eevee nest and evolve high level ones to Espeon regardless of iv, they will not need much more investment.

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I usually have the "luck" of finding low level eevees and the nests are always far away from my home. Not much eevee candy to spare either and i'd have to walk the eevees to get espeon. Keeping name trick only if I find a 100%. The idea here is not just to solo for the sake of soloing, I want to see what I can solo while having 1 of each mon in the team (unless it has a different form) which will make this harder but that's how I keep them in my list.

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