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Your most common attacker into gyms

Their is a general consensus that the gym scene has changed a lot compared to the old days. In order to choose valuable defenders, I was wondering with which attackers people battle gyms nowadays (exclude raids).

Personally, I often use Dragonite (DT+O) to battle gyms. The reason is that I rank time as the most valuable factor and I prefer to push through the 6 defenders without the need to change Pokemon.

Next to the superior Blissey and Snorlax, I find it quite annoying to battle a wigglytuff with DG which manages to put some serieus damage into my Dragonite before fainting.
Likewise, scizor feels to take ages due to his type advantage against Dragonite.

Do you still change Pokemon throughout a battle to gain type advantage or are you using similar strategies as written above?

Asked by Sebhes7 years 9 months ago

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I rush through gyms with either my Tyranitars or Dragonites.

Just like you Dragonite is my favorite attacker and Tyranitar is a close second. Vaporeon with WG/HP is also very good

DT/O may be slightly faster against high cp pokemon but its an overkill on lower cp. for example DB/DC can 1 hit kill most pokemon around 500cp in like 1 to 3 seconds with dragon claw. So I think DB/DC is a better sweeper at the end

Definitely! Unfortunately, I wasn't granted with a Dragonite with DC.

I like stab advantage so often swap out. Trex, Lapras, Vape and Venu are popular.

When time is not an issue, I just use any combo of mons I was going to transfer anyway, then transfer once feinted.

Dragonite, Tyranitar, Machamp, Vaporeon, Flareon, Espeon.
Sometimes Jolteon if most of the gym is water.

Thank you for your feedback guys, much appreciated.

If you value time most, I think you should choose attackers with type advantage as type advantage is now 1,4 or 1,96 for double advantage.
I usually use my Machamps, Tyranitars, Vaporeons and swap when countering appropriate defenders.
I have Dragonites with DB/DC, DT/O and even DT/DC but I don't use them much these days

What's so special about Vaporeons that so many people use them over the other Eeveelutions despite being the slowest?

I think there is two reasons; first is type advantage: against all fires, rocks and grounds - that covers a lot of big (high Cp) defenders, second is of its tankiness

My vaporeon used to be my main attacker in the old gym scene. I had no access to a good Dragonite and most importantly, vaporeon was very potion efficient.

For gym attacks I only use Dragonite DB/DC and/or Tyranitar B/SE. I value time but also value potion efficiency just as much or even more because I go through a lot of potions for legendary raids every day.

Which one do you use against a Clefable?

The same. I dodge everything

Do you realise that both Tyranitar and Dragonite are weak to fairy, and do NVE damage to Clefable?

In a year of playing, I've only seen clefable in a gym twice. Is it a common defender in some areas?

do you realize nobody actually uses clefable :S

Golem

I use mostly these:
Dragonite
Vaporeon
Golem
Pinsir

Gyms are so weak these days that I only ever use Tyranitar - B/C or Dragonite - DT/O for the first two sweeps against whatever is in the gym. If I have enough potions, for the final sweep I use Pokemon that I want to build up "Battles Won". Usually they are Pokemon I NOW use to defend gyms - Umbreon, Clefable, Ampharos, Miltank etc...

Am I the only one who uses Flareon as a generalist?
Flareon is also important for the fairy types which the big 3 gym attackers are all weak and NVE to.

Most used are probably Tyranitar B/C and Vaporean WG/HP both >90%. They are my core.

I also relish a chance to use my 100% Arcanine FF/FB and my 93% Venosaur VW/SB (both maxed) when they get the right matches.

I have a couple of FB/IB Lapras that I keep for antidragonite but with dragonite in gyms so much less these days I don't use them as much.

Vaporeon with WG/AT
It is very easy to dodge with Aqua Tail, and you probably won't get hit by Snorlax's Body Slam.

Vaporeon with WG/HP
Great DPS with enough tankiness, can be used against Rhydons (sometimes even kills them before get their charge moves able to be launched) and Blisseys.

Poliwrath with Bubble/DP
A very good attacker against Blisseys, it is easier to dodge with Bubble and only a little bit behind Rock Smash. Paired with the WG/HP Vaporeon, beating Blisseys is a lot easier than before in my experience! Note: I don't have Tyranitars, and my only Dragonite was at a very low level with a bad moveset, thus being transferred to clear my storage.

Gengar with SC/ShB
This is normally a glass cannon, mostly used in Machamp raids, sometimes as a backup against psychics and/or ghosts.

Clefable with ZH/DG
All those Dragonites!

Golem with RT/RB
All those Gyaradoses, also being used in Moltres raids!

(Corsola with Bubble/RB)
Was level 30 when caught in the wild a couple of weeks ago, now level 31, planned to max it out (level 31.5) and it will be my first maxed out Pokémon after reaching trainer level 30. In the future, I will probably make it one of my Moltres + Charizard counters.

PS: why would you ever attack a Wigglytuff with a Dragonite that doesn't have Steel Wing as its quick move? PSS: Bullet Punch Machamps can shine here.

i use the auto select one, most of the time get the job done by two pokemons..
gym defense is not that it used to be..

Same, it's probably the only way I'd use my Rhydons.

I still trust in my two maxed out ES/SoB-Eggys.

Most of the time my autoselect chooses 6 eggys so I go with that.

It seems that many people usually attack with either Dragonite or Tyranitar, because they are both great generalist.

Therefore, I would advice players to consider Wigglytuff (Play Rough / Dazzling Geam) or Granbull (Play Rough) as gym defenders when the Blissey/Snorlax/Chansey spots are already given away. Fairy type will resist and hit so incredibly hard. Many players are unaware of this and will be caught off guard.

Wigglytuff, Clefable, Granbull are common defenders here. That's why I need my Flareon.

I see, in my area I rarely encounter them. Do you have a specific reason for using flareon over espeon?

Resistance to fairy.
Also, 90% of Blisseys that people place as defenders here have DG.
Actually those fairy types ain't that common in my area either, DG Blisseys are 10x more common.

Exeggutor or Rhydon would be my first pick for almost everything, and my Kingler as backup. But if there is a Blissey at full CP, I have to bring in a Machoke since my Machamp ended up with a steel charge move... and I am hesitant to use a TM on him.

Who are you? Autoselect?

Seriously though, if you only looked at my autoselect screen when entering a gym you'd think I only owned 1 TTar, 1 Dragonite, 6 eggys, and 5 Rhydons. It's always a combination of those 13 unless I've failed to heal/revive them.

B/SE Ttar puts in great work and can take a lot of abuse before needing a potion. Unless you hit a DG Blissey or a Machamp, you're usually fine, and most people aren't leaving their Machamp as defenders because they want them available to attack.

I also often pull out my all-Bug Scizor, even against neutral matchups, because I love using him that much.