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With Kingler having a higher CP, can it be more useful? I answered myself no to this considering it has horrible movesets, but it can still be used to attack Fire types in gyms with Mud Shot and Water pulse. It's a good moveset in terms of defending, but you have to keep in mind Kingler has low health. What are your opinions?

Asked by ._teamvalor1787_.8 years 4 months ago
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Yeah... I am not sure he's useful for anything.

His stats are perfect for attacking.
His quick moves are the sort that are good for attacking.
He hasn't got STAB on his quick moves. (bad for attack)
His Charge moves are good for defending.
He has no single type movesets. (+Def, -Att)

Because he's kind of all over the place, I think there's going to be some other pokemon who is better at anything you try to use him for.

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Yup, this has been exactly my read on him since day 1. Good attacking Quick Moves but neither with STAB. Good defending Charge Moves, only one with STAB.

Of 5 total moves, all 5 are different types. Neither cover his only 2 weaknesses particularly well (Grass / Electric).
If you try to cover electric with Mud Shot (cough 6 dmg cough) you allow weakness to grass. If you try to cover Grass with X-Scissor, you allow weakness to basically everything else.

The only reason he's viable now is as Gym Trash b/c of his high CP. Evolve whatever garbage level 30 krabbies you find, toss them in gyms, and transfer when they come back

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You could see if he's any good against Laprases. Metal Claw is the second highest DPS quick move in the game and Steel is super effective to Ice.

Kingler's resistance to Ice somewhat makes up for his low stamina. It would kind of be like having a Pokemon that takes neutral damage from Ice moves that has higher HP.

tbh I wouldn't bother using charge moves. While they might do higher DPS you might miss a dodge because of it and that'll reduce the damage that Kingler does before it faints even if it does do slightly more DPS.

I think he's a terrible defender because of his low HP. As an attacker you can mitigate that by dodging, but the gym AI can't.

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Steel is not very effective to water though, so Metal Claw ends up hitting Lapras for neutral damage. That's not very impressive when lacking stab.

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Yeah I liked where his head was at thinking outside the box, but sadly there really is no use for the dumb crab

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Kingler is actually pretty good against Ground/Rock types with either Metal Claw with Water pulse or Mud Shot with Water pulse, which means that we can take down the Rhydons or Golems that will be taking over gyms. It is also, like i stated, good against Fire types with Mud Shot and Water pulse.

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I tried my 2300 CP Kingler against a 2100 Lapras just now and was seriously unimpressed. Had to bring in my Arcanine to finish the job. I wish I could bring myself to get rid of this one, but I just can't quite pull the trigger on ANY mon that high. It is, however, sending my OCD into severe overdrive with it sitting on the first screen of my CP sort. Wish I could hide it.

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Kingler is at least good for taking down Rhydons now, it makes sense that they made him stronger. (in a way)

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by Arak2 8 years 4 months ago

I suspect the only thing you will see Kingler useful for is for "Fake" Gym Holding.

IE someone comes along and powers up a level 5-9 Gym then puts a Level 30 Kingler like mine with 2265 CP in the gym.

That might hide the Kingler behind 3+ better defenders

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