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Who is the best pokemon to use against water (mainly Vaporeons)? It looks like Exeggutor is the strongest that resists it but his best common attack is ZH which water isn't weak against.

Asked by Buns8 years 3 months ago
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Venusaur. Good base stats with grass quick and charge move.

Exeggutor takes a vaporeon out just as quick even without SE on quick move thanks to higher atk, but is less agile compared to Vine whip venasaur.

EDIT: I guess dragonite is being considered :)

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ZH not being SE doesn't really matter, because STAB ZH on Exeggutor still does very similar damage to the common grass type Pokemon used against Vaporeons (Victreebel, Vileplume, Venusaur and Tangela) even when you factor in those moves being STAB + SE, but Exeggutor having higher attack stat means that it's Solar Beam will do more damage than the Solar Beam's of these 4 Pokemon.

Although it's actually Dragonite that's the best counter to Vaporeon. Even though Dragonite has neutral offensive typing, simply because it's attack stat is so high allows it to out DPS grass attackers, while still resisting water just like grass types.

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If you compare total damage output before fainting, Dragonite is the best counter to only 3 types, Water, Grass and Fighting.

In terms of DPS, Dragonite has the best DPS against Flying, Dragon, Dark, Electric, Water and Normal.

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So it deals more to electric than MS/EQ Rhydon? That's interesting.

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  1. Dragonite (DB/DC) (100%)
  2. Alakazam (PC/P) (99,79512%)
  3. Rhydon (MS/E) (97,61277%)
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That makes sense. Thanks!
I was hoping for something other than Exeggutor just because they're so rare out here and my last 5 evolves have got horrible movesets. So anticlimactic after evolving haha

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The difference in battle time between say, a VW/Solar Venusaur and a ZH/Solar Exeggutor isn't much, we're talking a difference of seconds.

Even if you don't have one with the best moveset, Exeggutor's still going to be strong against Vaporeons because of it's high attack stat and it still resists water, it just won't be as fast as a ZH/Solar Exeggutor, but not by much.

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There isn't really such a thing as a terrible moveset on Exeggutor. I wouldn't hope for seed bomb (my only Exeggutor has that) but even that's decent.
I have a vw/sob Venusaur at around 1300cp so perfect for prestiging but I have to say I'm a bit disappointed in how little damage it deals. It bearly takes down a third of a >2500 Vaps health, maybe not even a third.

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Dragonite is by far the best counter against Vaporeon. It deals the most damage against water before fainting (followed by Snorlax, Venusaur, Vaporeon, Exeggutor), but it also has the highest DPS against water (closely followed by Alakazam, Exeggutor, Jolteon and Venusaur).

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If it is a high level gym and I know it will gonna take me some time and a nice amount of resources I normally use Dragonite in order to save some potions, for the rest of gyms, Venusaur or Exeggutor are without doubt the best choices.

If you are taking gyms without any hurry and want to have fun I recommend you try Raichu, Tangela and Alakazam, I really enjoy attacking with those mons and I love to use them every time I can, I have a 1850 Raichu and a 2500 Alakazam and it is very nice to actually use them.

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I'm in 4 alakazams and still hoping for that Psycho Cut. I'm looking forward to using him most

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Wow that is a beast of an Alakazam. I got Dazzling Gleam on my 91 iv.....

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Mine is the same IV, 91%, PC/Psychic, it is really a beast, and still not powered up to the max.

Keep on trying, my PC one came on the third try ;)

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I got Psycho Cut / Shadow Ball which is not different from yours, that moment when quick move is better than charge move.

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He's gunna be a beast when pvp comes out if you start practicing dodging with him now

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I can't use any pokemon with psychic moves, my phone gets all laggy and becomes really annoying to fight :c

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When I see this asked, I share this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O73CuJpDEqM

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If you've got the candy try Tangela -not as strong as some, but double grass moves.

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Dragonite is the best Vape counter in the game.

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