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About secondary attackers for zapdos raids

In terms of DPS, considering the same IVs and level, which attacker, between Rhydon-Mud Slap/Stone Edge and Piloswine-Ice Shard/Avalanche is better?

Asked by ArthurA5N7 years 10 months ago
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by Arak2 7 years 11 months ago

Piloswine will probably do more total damage.

Keeping in mind that Rhydon will last slightly longer.

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by DrAzzy 7 years 11 months ago

Haven't done calculations, but my intuition is that the piloswine wins (as suggested by rhydon being a "tank counter"). The reason being that the ice quick move is SE into zapdos, while mud slap is NVE (electric is weak to it, but flying double resists it), and avalanche has much better DPE (90 for half bar vs 100 for full bar). I think these factors outweigh the rhydon's ~25% attack advantage.

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Lets do the math

Rhydon
Attack Stat 222 x .714 = 158 (The same as Doduo)
Poloswin
Attack Stat 181 x 1.4 = 254 (3 higher than Tyranitar)

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Rhydon:
One cycle (without accounting for received damage) is 9 mud slaps and 1 stone edge
915 = 135 * 0.71 = 95 + 140 for stone edge = 235 in ~15 seconds
Piloswine: just over 4 ice shards for 1 avalanche
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12 = 48 1.4=67 for IS (901.4=) 126 for avalanche, for 193 in ~7 seconds
So ~16 DPS w/222 atk vs ~27 dps w/180 atk.
Looks like piloswine is ~40% higher DPS from these very crude calcs.

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Isn't the multiplier for effectiveness neutral for mud slap? Ground is resisted by flying but is the electric weakness and PoGO have not immunities. Am I missing something?
*Edit: I was missing this: "In an update, Niantic changed how certain moves affect Pokemon who, in the original games, would not be affected by attacks of that type. Instead of the traditional x0.714 not very effective multiplier, they are given a special multiplier of x0.51."

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*Plus
My math gave me this result:
- Piloswine has more DPS;
- Rhydon can survive longer.
I was looking for some math confirmation, you're helping me with this, thanks ;)

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I use both of them, Piloswine is 5th and Rhydon is 6th
Haven't failed any Zapdos raid, sometime even didn't have to rejoin

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Piloswine, not only MS is NVE, IS and A are both SE against zapdos, even with the better ATK stat Piloswine is about 30% better against Zapdos.

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